American Politics Discussion Thread

[Mjmd]

Who invited him to visit? Remind me. I've admitted Biden is ultimately responsible; he has signed the bills. However, you refuse to acknowledge where the bill to send the bombs was getting the most political push from and CRUTIALLY what that might mean for the future. Its not like Biden passed that as a standalone bill without aid. A candidate who wanted that would surely bare some scrutiny. In fact all politicians who wanted that may also bare some scrutiny. Again, I'm fine with getting all those Ds and Rs out of that picture. Are you?

My wife was in the hospital this morning and I'm in month end close so very very busy, excuse me if I can't do a comprehensive report taking hours of my valuable time you'll just ignore. There are several comprehensive reports you could look up fairly easily yourself if you cared to.

[Charr Babies]

Who invited him to visit? Remind me. I've admitted Biden is ultimately responsible; he has signed the bills. However, you refuse to acknowledge where the bill to send the bombs was getting the most political push from and CRUTIALLY what that might mean for the future. Its not like Biden passed that as a standalone bill without aid. A candidate who wanted that would surely bare some scrutiny. 

I dream of red herrings and strawmen cus I keep seeing so much of it with you. There you go again, still trying to pass the buck. I have no love for either dumb or dumber, or aligned with Democrats or Republicans. This is us as a whole, the biden regime, so biden (and his cronies) takes full responsibilities as a potus should.  

Talk accountability when you are always passing the buck. 

[Mjmd]

Saying "ultimately responsible" isn't passing the buck. He is, he signed it. However, you also should acknowledge he isn't solely responsible for a bill requiring the house and senate. Also, I think its important to view to not be blind to everything else when looking at the future. 1) Kamala isn't Biden and was not in charge of signing, and 2) what the alternative were doing (see picture) / are saying they will do "let them finish the job". Edit: again its easy to win arguments if you just ignore everything else.

[Charr Babies]

Saying "ultimately responsible" isn't passing the buck. He is, he signed it. However, you also should acknowledge he isn't solely responsible for a bill requiring the house and senate. Also, I think its important to view to not be blind to everything else when looking at the future. 1) Kamala isn't Biden and was not in charge of signing, and 2) what the alternative were doing (see picture) / are saying they will do "let them finish the job". Edit: again its easy to win arguments if you just ignore everything else.

I dream of red herrings and strawmen cus I keep seeing so much of it with you. There you go again, still trying to pass the buck. I have no love for either dumb or dumber, allied with Democrats or Republicans. This is us as a whole, the biden regime, so biden (and his cronies) takes full responsibilities as a potus should.  
Talk accountability when you are always passing the buck. 

We have gone many useless pages about biden vs trump and kamala = biden. She is the vice president. and hasn't said anything biden hasn't already said to change the gaza situation.
We are talking us as a whole and you still try to go off on a tangent. I am not like the green guy who let you troll him all around the world with hundred thousands of words each. And nothing.

I am on to you!

Stay focus. We are continuing the genocide in gaza! What morals?

again its easy to win arguments if you just ignore everything else.

Thank you for conceding to my win!

That's right. Your empty words means nothing, only the results of your actions count.

[Mjmd]

Oh I agree we should absolutely try to get more US people on board. I agree with you it is a US moral disgrace. 100% agree and I've never denied it. I just don't think you actually care is my main problem with you saying it. Again, I think you are just trolling, which is how this got restarted. You say you care about Gaza, but have that signature where you clearly dismiss other suffering, which brings into question if you actually care. You say you care about Gaza but then say you will vote for someone who said he would let Israel "finish the job".

This time I do have to be going. Again, I do appreciate you being such an honest hypocritical troll. Most aren't honest about it.

[T-hawk]

You say you care about Gaza but then say you will vote for someone who said he would let Israel "finish the job".

Just to point this out since nuance tends to escape you, both of those can be true. You can disagree with Trump's proposed handling of Gaza but still vote for him since that's a lesser concern compared to domestic issues like economy and crime.

[greenline]

I do think there's a small chance Trump would end the Gaza war. Not because he is at all sympathetic to the Palestinian cause, but because he has a big ego and would like to show off a peace deal similar to the one he brokered between Arab states and Israel. Whatever deal the Palestinians got from Trump would not be generous, but he would be more likely to push for an offer than Biden/Harris, who seem eternally content not doing much of anything.

[The Black Sword]

We have gone many useless pages

It really is impressive how many pages you've managed to write without answering a single one of MJMD's questions. Meanwhile he has the patience of the saint to answer all of yours. Really speaks to whose arguments will hold up to scrutiny and whose will not.

[Charr Babies]

We have gone many useless pages

It really is impressive how many pages you've managed to write without answering a single one of MJMD's questions. Meanwhile he has the patience of the saint to answer all of yours. Really speaks to whose arguments will hold up to scrutiny and whose will not.

 
obviously one of the member of the yes-men club. You would think someone talking about scrutiny would be more careful not to lie. Even Mjmd would have to say I must have answered a couple of questions, and avoided a couple of questions of mine.

Really speaks to whose arguments will hold up to scrutiny and whose will not. A little critical thinking goes a long way... 

[Charr Babies]

@&$#&

You see you are still trying to do the twist. "Free Tibet wherever the fuck that is" (one more time) is me laugh at the ignorance of most americans, who are shrouded under the propaganda bubble, such as yourself. Until you can prove the genocide with your prison camp photos, it remains a disagreement if it happened or not, unlike the gaza genocide we both agree on. So once again, the signature serves as a reminder of me laughing at you.

I really wish you would engage a little critical thinking. It seems you are grasping at the last straw, a fish on the hook. (Hey, that makes sense. Me troll, you fish ) 

You say you care about Gaza but then say you will vote for someone who said he would let Israel "finish the job

How many times do I have to explain to you WORDS DO NOT EQUAL ACTIONS. Bing said the Baltic states, should be wiped off the map does not make him a genocidaire. That superdeath guy said fuck russia, fuck china cannot be prosecuted for raping a nation. That biden guy keep telling to the yahoo guy to stop, and send more to israel while he is speaking. Until you are able to display a basic level of reasoning. I will accept this

I agree with you it is a US moral disgrace.

Case closed

...I just don't think you actually care is my main problem with you saying it....
I just don't think you actually care is my main problem with you saying it. Again, I think you are just trolling, which is how this got restarted. You say you care about Gaza, but have that signature where you clearly dismiss other suffering, which brings into question if you actually care

Let me pull an Mjmd on you. That is an emotional appeal fallacy, a combo of straw man and ad hominem —misrepresenting the argument and attacking the person. 

You are the master of fallacy flingers