(November 28th, 2024, 08:42)BING_XI_LAO Wrote: In a recent game, someone surprised me with 9 swordsmen in galleys, but they couldn't take my city because I had 1 archer, 3 axes, and walls on a hill.
I had only made axes because they have 5 strength, which is higher than spears or archers (and archers get researched later, too). No real planning, just adding a couple of extra units and a wall in a border city. BRAINLESS - and it countered the supposed "city attacking late classical unit" by default.
I panicked when I saw the galleys - but only because I was pessimistically afraid they might have xbows or chariots.
I've commented before that axemen are too much of a default unit and swordsmen excessively niche as a result, and not really special in that city attack niche anyway.
Directly changing the Axeman is certainly too radical.
But could swordsmen get something more, like +25% versus axeman-maceman, or +2 XP from barracks, or 7 Str, or +50% city attack bonus?
Axeman UU - (Vulture) gets +1 Str and in exchange had to be designed with 25% less melee bonus.
Meanwhile the Praetorian, with +2 Str, only needed what, a +5 hammer nerf in this mod?
Skirmisher is +1, Phalanx is +1, Impi is +1 movement, horse archer UUs don't have any +str, Cataphract has +2 off a 10 baseline and it's considered very strong.
The Praetorian is very strong at 8 Str, but we all know that they would become almost irrelevant if they had only 7 Str.
It's able to be a +2 UU off an early tech because the baseline unit is so weak.
Horse archers compared to swordsmen get to double move. They lose tile defense bonus and city raider promos, but they also get an extra XP building. Imagine if there was an 8 STR horse archer UU.
In conclusion - Swordsmen are so sad from every angle. PLS BUFF.
Personally I think 7 Str and 25% city attack would be nice.
The only thing i could think of to help with the swords vs axes in cities (besides... bringing catapults like ur supposed to) Is do what RTR i believe did, which is jack up the bonus vs city attack. Otherwise, axes are SUPPOSED to counter swords. Swords are supposed to help beat stacked archers in cities. Rock-paper- scissors.
"Superdeath seems to have acquired a rep for aggression somehow. In this game that's going to help us because he's going to go to the negotiating table with twitchy eyes and slightly too wide a grin and terrify the neighbors into favorable border agreements, one-sided tech deals and staggered NAPs."
-Old Harry. PB48.
-Old Harry. PB48.