American Politics Discussion Thread

[Mjmd]

Oh again, I'm very curious what will happen with Israel and what your comments will be then once Trump is president. Considering how much you care I notice you haven't mentioned any one of Trumps picks that might affect that situation nor how pro Israel they are (secretary of state, UN and Israel ambassadors). For someone who brings it up every time we argue its a curious absence that you haven't posted about considering how you are truly an unbias concerned citizen. To be fair we don't know what will happen still, but the picks aren't a good indicator for what you claim to care about.

Again, who do you trust MORE. Who is the least bad option. Its not a false dilemma. It is our dilemma every 4 years. You can say "Biden bad" all you want. I might even agree with you. However, if all that was posted here was Biden / Democrats bad, it would be an echo chamber. Context matters. If Biden issues preemptive pardons, that is bad. How bad? well context matters. How much is because the incoming president is threatening political prosecution? Well its still bad to issue the pardons, but you can understand why they have to choose between two bad options, and you should understand its a step they shouldn't have to do.

[Charr Babies]

Oh again, I'm very curious what will happen with Israel and what your comments will be then once Trump is president. Considering how much you care I notice you haven't mentioned any one of Trumps picks that might affect that situation nor how pro Israel they are (secretary of state, UN and Israel ambassadors). For someone who brings it up every time we argue its a curious absence that you haven't posted about considering how you are truly an unbias concerned citizen. To be fair we don't know what will happen still, but the picks aren't a good indicator for what you claim to care about.

Again, who do you trust MORE. Who is the least bad option. Its not a false dilemma. It is our dilemma every 4 years. You can say "Biden bad" all you want. I might even agree with you. However, if all that was posted here was Biden / Democrats bad, it would be an echo chamber. Context matters. If Biden issues preemptive pardons, that is bad. How bad? well context matters. How much is because the incoming president is threatening political prosecution? Well its still bad to issue the pardons, but you can understand why they have to choose between two bad options, and you should understand its a step they shouldn't have to do.

 again, again and again 

This is about what biden did, not if it is better or worse than whoever the fuck you want to compare to. It is about the state of the us of a, a government that operates above the law, that is full of deceits and corruptions.
It is not about trump, and definitely not about me.
I give you no wiggle room to go off on a tangent. And yet, you still managed to carry on trying to make it a trump thing for pages. 

Thank the Gods for cut and paste!

[Mjmd]

So you want an echo chamber? You can go elsewhere to find one if you want.

Biden bad. Happy? No context. Who needs context anyways.

[Charr Babies]

So you want an echo chamber? You can go elsewhere to find one if you want.

I will remember that line when you go all nuts, again 

Biden bad. Happy? No context. Who needs context anyways.

Context here:
 https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=9624&pid=862203#pid862203

Lets go another 10 pages of you trying to make it a trump thing 

[Mjmd]

Again, I don't start posting a lot. But when people post without context its my job to keep them honest.

I pushed my daughter down.

Context:

Who needs this. Mjmd bad!

[Charr Babies]

Again, I don't start posting a lot. But when people post without context its my job to keep them honest.

I pushed my daughter down.

Context:

Who needs this. Mjmd bad!

 Oh now you are playing dumb.  
The context in in the video. 
You want more detail? Go watch the entire Megan Kelly's fuk you biden video. 
You want more context? Go watch the entire John Steward segment. Question his motives
Maybe it just to show you it is more than operating above the law, and dems excuses him for just saving hunter while ignoring the fact he was lying to the world back in june. 
Maybe there is nothing more than entertainment.
Maybe it was just to troll you knowing you would lie, twist facts and spare no underhanded tactics (like knowingly committing all sorts of logical fallacies) just to try and make this a trump thing. 

I brought it up again because you implied that was the only thing he did wrong.

AND YES, when you commit genocide that crime follows you around for life, everywhere. There is no redo. DONT TRY TO DISMISS IT AS IF IS PETTY THEFT!  

How low can you get!?!?

[Mjmd]

So how in your opinion does threats of political prosecution factor into how bad preemptive pardons are? Like we are just saying "bad" and we are being generic. You are right, sending weapons used in genocide is bad, pardoning his son is bad. They are not at the same level of bad 100% agree. Again, equality fallacy. Pardon to his son is worse than a preemptive pardon to people being threatened. Again, its not a false dilemma fallacy. We do have to choose between bad options, so we have to look at the levels of "bad". Context matters. So posting without context is "bad". I have never said it wasn't the wrong thing to do.

Biden bad.

[Boro]

Oh again, I'm very curious what will happen with Israel and what your comments will be then once Trump is president.

I know it's not directed at me, but this is pretty easy to guess:


* Past year has been election season, so we've seen restraint from Biden since a significant-enough portion of the voter base was pro-palestine and the race was close. At the same time, the support was unquestioned regardless of what Israel did (too many to count). Without the pressure of an upcoming election, the gloves can be off and support can be more overt.
* On top of that, Trump's campaign appealed more to the already pro-Israel christians, so he has even less reason to show restraint.
* Both Biden and Netanyahu claimed credit for the fall of Syria, while Trump has been open that the US has been occupying it's north (through kurdish proxies) to keep the wheat and oil to itself.
* Almost immediately after the media-rehabilitated, former isis / former al-kaida (quaeda) "rebels/opposition" took power, expressing desire to foster good relations with all neighbors (including Israel), Israel invaded south Syria with the western media calling it a "buffer zone", and with the full support of the US foreign ministry and aligned media.

So chances are, Israel will grow, former DMZ around golan will be fully settled, possibly alongside south syria with displacement of local populace, which is currently being decimated with inter-confessional violence (I've been calling it headchopper central since the weekend) and ongoing shortage of goods (due to the country having little to trade without the north/east kurd-controlled part). What might follow is a partitioning of syria between Turkey (or it's proxy), Israel, and a kurdish puppet state in the northeast.

This is an optimal scenario, but since we are looking at a chaos similar to the turning of Libya into a failed state, much worse could happen. For example, ISIS resurgence, Israel invasion into lebanon or even the implementation of dahiyeh doctrine across lebanese cities, or even an escalation with Iran and Yemen.

[Charr Babies]

So how in your opinion does threats of political prosecution factor into how bad preemptive pardons are? Like we are just saying "bad" and we are being generic. You are right, sending weapons used in genocide is bad, pardoning his son is bad. They are not at the same level of bad 100% agree. Again, equality fallacy. Pardon to his son is worse than a preemptive pardon to people being threatened. Again, its not a false dilemma fallacy. We do have to choose between bad options, so we have to look at the levels of "bad". Context matters. So posting without context is "bad". I have never said it wasn't the wrong thing to do.

Biden bad.

This sounded like you are saying
I know raping is bad. But it could be worse. it is only because I were horny and she dressed slutty. It could be much worse, I could have beaten and raped her. But I chose not to beat her. And it only took a couple of minutes. You have to look at the level of bad. Context matter. So post I am a rapist without context/details is bad. 

[Mock] News Flash
Mjmd, a 35-year-old man who raped a 14-year-old girl has been arrested. Mjmd is known to the police with a history of sexual offense... Name of the victim is withheld to respect the privacy of the victim's family.

posting without context is "bad". You don't know what led to the event, how it was done and what I was thinking during the process.
I have never said it wasn't the wrong thing to do. But what about Epstein, and that Charr guy who have never posted about Epstein?

[/Mock]

[Charr Babies]

Oh again, I'm very curious what will happen with Israel and what your comments will be then once Trump is president.

I know it's not directed at me, but this is pretty easy to guess:


* Past year has been election season, so we've seen restraint from Biden since a significant-enough portion of the voter base was pro-palestine and the race was close. At the same time, the support was unquestioned regardless of what Israel did (too many to count). Without the pressure of an upcoming election, the gloves can be off and support can be more overt.
* On top of that, Trump's campaign appealed more to the already pro-Israel christians, so he has even less reason to show restraint.
* Both Biden and Netanyahu claimed credit for the fall of Syria, while Trump has been open that the US has been occupying it's north (through kurdish proxies) to keep the wheat and oil to itself.
* Almost immediately after the media-rehabilitated, former isis / former al-kaida (quaeda) "rebels/opposition" took power, expressing desire to foster good relations with all neighbors (including Israel), Israel invaded south Syria with the western media calling it a "buffer zone", and with the full support of the US foreign ministry and aligned media.

So chances are, Israel will grow, former DMZ around golan will be fully settled, possibly alongside south syria with displacement of local populace, which is currently being decimated with inter-confessional violence (I've been calling it headchopper central since the weekend) and ongoing shortage of goods (due to the country having little to trade without the north/east kurd-controlled part). What might follow is a partitioning of syria between Turkey (or it's proxy), Israel, and a kurdish puppet state in the northeast.

This is an optimal scenario, but since we are looking at a chaos similar to the turning of Libya into a failed state, much worse could happen. For example, ISIS resurgence, Israel invasion into lebanon or even the implementation of dahiyeh doctrine across lebanese cities, or even an escalation with Iran and Yemen.

SIGH
You fell for his red herring trap. Now this thread is going to go another 100 pages on useless opinions but not another word about biden's corruption.