Adventure Three - Scoring questions

[Griselda]

If you've posted a report for Adventure Three, and you need a judgement call about how something counts for scoring, please reply to this thread. That way, we can be sure we're getting to your report and getting you an answer as soon as possible.

Please note that you should only be using this thread if you have questions about your own game. If you see something questionable in someone else's report, please use the private messaging system to contact me or Sirian.

-Griselda

[Justus_II]

Two scoring questions from my game:


1. As I noted in my report, I did not notice I had the option to convert to Organized Religion until 500AD, when I was switching government types (after capturing Pyramid). I did not write down when I traded for Monotheism, and I had no other civics options during that time, so I had never checked the F3 screen. I did switch to it the turn I saw it was available, and since I did not have any other choices (and no religions available anyway) it had no effect on game play. Do I still get to count the 10 points? (I included them in my score, as it was an honest mistake)

2. The scoring for 1000AD says number of cities converted to State Religion, IF you have the shrine. I had converted to my State Religion, and had converted 8 cities by 1000AD, BUT I didn't build the Shrine yet. Does that mean the points don't count, or can I count them because I did later build the shrine? (I did not count these in my report).

Thanks!

[Sirian]

Two scoring questions from my game:


1. As I noted in my report, I did not notice I had the option to convert to Organized Religion until 500AD, when I was switching government types (after capturing Pyramid). I did not write down when I traded for Monotheism, and I had no other civics options during that time, so I had never checked the F3 screen. I did switch to it the turn I saw it was available, and since I did not have any other choices (and no religions available anyway) it had no effect on game play. Do I still get to count the 10 points? (I included them in my score, as it was an honest mistake)

2. The scoring for 1000AD says number of cities converted to State Religion, IF you have the shrine. I had converted to my State Religion, and had converted 8 cities by 1000AD, BUT I didn't build the Shrine yet. Does that mean the points don't count, or can I count them because I did later build the shrine? (I did not count these in my report).

Thanks!

1. It's supposed to be right away. My first thought is to stick with that, and if you missed it, you missed it. Misclicks can be corrected, but only right away. If you misclick and keep playing, then you passed on the chance to fix it.

The danger of making exceptions is getting sucked in to more and more judgement calls on these type of things. (That's not what I want! In fact, having too much time sucked away by minutiae is one of the few real threats to the tournament, so it's up to us to do the right things to minimize that.) However, how many turns of lapse are we talking about here?

2. You have to have the Shrine in place. If you didn't get it in time, no points there.


- Sirian

[Justus_II]

1. It's supposed to be right away. My first thought is to stick with that, and if you missed it, you missed it. Misclicks can be corrected, but only right away. If you misclick and keep playing, then you passed on the chance to fix it.
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However, how many turns of lapse are we talking about here?

I don't know for sure. According to my save from 150AD, I didn't have Monotheism yet, I had to have traded for it sometime after that. My best guess would be after 325AD, when I got Metal Casting (although I remember holding it for a few turns before trading it). Since I traded for Monotheism, I never got the pop-up asking to change civics (so it's not a misclick, more a lack of click! ), I never saw the option until I captured the Pyramids and tried to swap for Representation. So probably somewhere between 325 and 475, or 1-6 turns. If not, I understand, the score itself's not that important, I'm at the mercy of the court!

2. You have to have the Shrine in place. If you didn't get it in time, no points there.

That's what I thought, just wanted to check.

[pling]

I'm going to put my report up in the next hour or so - but I've just got a quick question about scoring. I neglected (through forgetting) to document my revolution to Organised Religion - I did revolt to it as soon as I could, I just didn't take a screenshot or save the game in that turn. Can I still count it for the 10 points it's worth?

[Sirian]

I'm going to put my report up in the next hour or so - but I've just got a quick question about scoring. I neglected (through forgetting) to document my revolution to Organised Religion - I did revolt to it as soon as I could, I just didn't take a screenshot or save the game in that turn. Can I still count it for the 10 points it's worth?

You -can- document civics changes by viewing the game's replay. It will tell what year you made a civics change and to what. It won't document when you got the tech, though. Do you have that documented?

In any event, we'll take your word for it on this one. Thanks for asking.


- Sirian

[Sirian]

1-6 turns.

All right, that's pretty small. Go ahead and count it.

These scoring things are always a little complicated. I hope other folks can learn from seeing where folks ran in to these kinds of problems, and be prepared to deal with the necessary amount of paying attention to details in future.


- Sirian

[pling]

You -can- document civics changes by viewing the game's replay. It will tell what year you made a civics change and to what. It won't document when you got the tech, though. Do you have that documented?

In any event, we'll take your word for it on this one. Thanks for asking.


- Sirian

I've got a note of year of getting the tech & revolting, but no screenshot for any of it. Thanks for taking my word for it - I'll pay more attention to what I'm doing next time