June 28th, 2021, 10:26
(This post was last modified: July 9th, 2021, 23:38 by rekenner.)
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Quote:rekenner's Intro (that's mostly just rambling)
I play Civ4 SP on Monarch to Immortal, Tech trading off. Difficulty depending on how silly I want to play the game.
My main worries in this are... well, not falling into sloppy SP habits (eg, missing whip timings, wasting worker turns) and figuring out how this differs from SP - eg, what wonders you can afford to prioritize, how to handle religion. Is starting Myst reasonable?
Some of my opening thoughts, given that I'm new to CtH for this game (I've been doing first 50-100 turn sims to sharpen my openings):
Is starting Myst reasonable... given the change to its cost? (I suspect how reasonable I consider it will be based on my opening territory) Is Phi's buff big enough? Is Phi/Ind or Fin/Phi too weak of a start, given that neither speeds up a building or gives worker/settler bonuses or makes for easier border pops. Phi and Fin do still scale very well, but Fin no longer giving fast commerce gains is a touch painful. eg, am I being too greedy? It's a small field, so IND does seem to lose a bit of value. Still, Fin/Phi, getting Great Library seems..... juicy. But can I reliably do it without anything scaling me to it? Small field, so, higher odds, I think.
Also given that it's a small field, I feel like my civ/leader choices will be pretty wide open, but I think I'll wait on that until I get the territory screenshot.
Also also given that it's a small field, focusing on civ/leader combo with a strong opening might be the best idea (... until I get dogpiled. :D) -- which is somewhat counter to that I tend to like scaling leaders, but that's also somewhat BTS's leaning - Fin being king, and all. So, despite what I just said about not talking about Civ/Leader combos too much, Cathy is a bit intriguing to me (Cre/Imp). I worry that the best way to then take advantage of my many production queues and large amount of land will be waging war... but, honestly, my least favorite part of some types of board games (eg, Diplomacy, Twilight Imperium) is that I'm *terrible* at "reading the table" in terms of diplomacy. I know that this is a TrueAIDiplo game as opposed to something more freeform, but still.Or, yknow, Boudica of Rome. Better to burn out than fade away! (I probably won't do that, I don't tend to early rush, so my practice at that isn't amazing, that'd be a very all-in combo, and while Cathy is all-in on early game, she's not all-in on  ) Am I overrating the Exp nerf, in that I'm not really thinking much about Sury?
(Speaking of Board Games, I think my naming theme will be Boardgames I've Been Playing During The Pandemic. Steam tells me I have ~970 hours played of TTS. That's. Probably accurate, honestly. Capital will be Gloomhaven, in honor of that it's the game I've played the most and also a game I've played with the wonderful Sullla, El Grillo, and lightms - I don't know if the lattermost has a RB acct. We're just about to wrap up Jaws of the Lion after having played through the base game and Forgotten Circles.)
I've rambled for awhile, so I think I'll leave it there. Welcome, all. Thanks for coming by. All Advice Welcomed. :D
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The Founding of Gloomhaven (turn 0)
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(June 28th, 2021, 10:26)rekenner Wrote: (Speaking of Board Games, I think my naming theme will be Boardgames I've Been Playing During The Pandemic. Steam tells me I have ~970 hours played of TTS. That's. Probably accurate, honestly. Capital will be Gloomhaven, in honor of that it's the game I've played the most and also a game I've played with the wonderful Sullla, El Grillo, and lightms - I don't know if the lattermost has a RB acct. We're just about to wrap up Jaws of the Lion after having played through the base game and Forgotten Circles.)
I for one approve of this naming schene.
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I have an enormous amount of love for ToT:
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June 28th, 2021, 11:02
(This post was last modified: June 28th, 2021, 11:06 by rekenner.)
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Ah, oops. I forgot, I was going to mention that I started playing Civ with Civ2 as a kid with ToT. I still have the manuals it came with around here, somewhere. Hence the title.
(And, hey, speaking of Civ anecdotes - I used to play Civ4, no one knew what they were doing, LAN games with a group of friends in college. Two of that group got married. It was taking place in a Catholic church, which has a strict restriction that they'll only play hymns during weddings. I was part of the wedding party and I was walking down the aisle when Baba Yetu started playing. Which, of course, is The Lord's Prayer in Swahili, so it was fine by the church. Catching the eyes of everyone that played in that group in the pews was awesome.)
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Hello hello, hope your trip has been going well. Good luck and have fun here, and I too approve of the naming scheme 
More thoughts to come when starting screenshots are available. I am lurking generally so I won’t be making any specific recommendations, but you’re welcome to bounce ideas off of the thread like you did with your initial thoughts. Have you tried out the new Protective trait?
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(June 28th, 2021, 11:12)El Grillo Wrote: Hello hello, hope your trip has been going well. Good luck and have fun here, and I too approve of the naming scheme
More thoughts to come when starting screenshots are available. I am lurking generally so I won’t be making any specific recommendations, but you’re welcome to bounce ideas off of the thread like you did with your initial thoughts. Have you tried out the new Protective trait?
Yep! I got back in yesterday night. Doing the drive home in one day turned out fine. Coffee and snacks got me through the day, hah. Visiting friends and family and discovering that, yes, life after the pandemic* does exist was great.
I've considered it - I think I might go Protective + something scaling if someone before me in the picks goes for something blatantly aggressive. The ol' Wang Kon pick. Maybe even Sitting Bull. Weather the storm, make myself look like an unappealing target, then come out with a tech lead? I could be undervaluing the extra trade income, but it doesn't seem good enough to want Pro *just* for the extra trade?
* (.... hopefully. Delta variant and all. I've been double vaccinated for awhile, as were all my friends and family. I'm fortunate enough that the US has had access to that.)
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About PRO: You can expect every trade route to make 2 commerce instead of 1 in the beginning.
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Yeah, I've played with it, some. It feels like a nice buff, but relatively minor without actually wanting the base benefits of PRO.
The bonus at Commerce, Corp, etc seems nice, but. Again -- I could just be underrating it.
June 28th, 2021, 16:50
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Good luck rekenner! I'll stay out of the other threads so that I can comment here while remaining unspoiled. I have limited knowledge of the mod being used for this game but quite a bit of familiarity with Civ4 over the past, ummm, 15 years. 
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(June 28th, 2021, 16:50)Sullla Wrote: Good luck rekenner! I'll stay out of the other threads so that I can comment here while remaining unspoiled. I have limited knowledge of the mod being used for this game but quite a bit of familiarity with Civ4 over the past, ummm, 15 years.
It's very appreciated!
Your videos and reports have definitely leveled up my SP game and are a big reason I feel confident in playing in something like this.
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