The War to End All Wars

[Dwip]

I mentioned, in the beginning of my Epic 50 report, that I was taking a break from a different game, one with slightly more...agressive Babylonians. It's an astonishingly fun and interesting game, and so I thought I'd share a few things with y'all.

What has come before is more or less unimportant, save that I'm America, and my goal is (I discover halfway through the game) to conquer the world (apparently unclicked most of the victory conditions...). This is ok, because I've been having gigantic naval wars with the entire world since about 1400 AD, which I'm winning solely because it's destroyers vs. frigates, and I've got the destroyers.

Just before the screenshot I am about to show you, I had a lengthy war with my neighbors, the Aztecs, which ended in their destruction, and a far less lengthy war with my neighbors, the Mayans, which ended in THEIR destruction. I have worked my way across the Atlantic and have invaded Scandanavia, where I am fighting Babylon for possession of the former Viking homeland.

Babylon, as it turns out, is having none of this:



Also there are about 100 more guys in Stockholm, plus random 20 or 50 man stacks of Spanish and Babylonian troops past that.

Now, that's a lot of guys. I have 97 bombers and some arty sitting around, and that helps a lot, but it still takes me about 10 turns of solid blasting to wear down Babylon's enormous stacks (Babylon has over 500 infantry at one point). At this point, I declare peace on the Hittites and Mongols, secure RoPs, and blitz through Spanish Europe.

About the time I finish that and start slogging through Babylon, I pick up modern armor. And it's a good thing I did, because, well, ok. Maybe, in the past, you thought you had a giant war with the AI. Maybe you even thought that me blowing hundreds of Babylonians and Spanish sky high was a pretty impressive war.

Let me assure you that, having witnessed the AI RoP Rape to end all RoP Rapes, I may definitively say that you are wrong.

Behold, the Hittite Army:



Not counting the arty or the 30 or so guys that took down some other stuff, that's 835 Hittites right there. Weighting down my shift key, that took about 15 minutes to move all those guys.

In the interests of fair disclosure, let me note that I DO also have 4 mech inf armies and on order of 12 modern armor armies on this continent, but they're, you know, on the other side of the Hittite Empire. Also 78 bombers and 10 F-15s. So I feel reasonably ok about the whole thing.

But wow.

[LKendter]

That fact that I see Vikings tells me it isn't my world map.

I am curious what world map you used.

[Dwip]

I'm using Kal-El's 180x180, civ-specific start locs (I also have version with random and no start locs), rules modified to prevent settling on desert and tundra.

Thus far, I've liked Kal-El's more than any of the others I've seen on the map forum at CFC. I haven't, however, seen your map anywhere, or even knew you had one until just now. As a collector of world maps, this is horrible and tragic. Be so kind as to point me towards it?

[LKendter]

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread...ge=4&pp=10


Go to the last post on the page.
You will need a heavy duty computer for this one...

[Sullla]

That is indeed a lot of units! Running a game with that gigantic of a map and that many civs strikes me as masochistic more than anything else, but as long as you're having fun...

[vmxa]

That is good size, but not all that big for such a large map. I have taken on many civs, stuck on an island that had more than 2000 units on a 160x160.

Often on a conquest only sid game I will have at least two other civs with around 1200 units. Again these are civs with only a dozen or so cities left.

They seem to manage well over 100 units per cities in the late game. It sure looks like fun though.

BTW I have read many of LK's SG games and that is one big map. Some of those AW games will wear you down. It is a lot harder to play it solo, with no one to pass of to for a few turns.

[Dwip]

LK - Thanks. I'll see about testing it out when I finally get done with this monster of a game.

Sullla - It's fun every so often, but believe me, there's a reason why I play builder games all the time.


vmxa - I think the only reason I'm NOT facing an overwhelming tidal wave of guys is because the rest of the world has been and is fighting each other as well as me. There've been a lot of losses.


Mainly I decided to post on the subject because this is the first time I've seen so many AI units come charging up the hill at me. I love how, four years later or so, Civ can still surprise me from time to time.