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[Spoilers] Furungy - Hostile Forms of Life

#1
December 11th, 2013, 04:44
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Waiting for the starting position.
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December 11th, 2013, 11:03
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December 12th, 2013, 19:00
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I'm dying to know what Bjarne Stroustrup would do with this start!
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December 17th, 2013, 17:12
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The obvious choice: work boat with a plains hill then worker with improved claim.

Code:
T00:    01    00/00/000    00/04/001    WORK BOAT  (000/030)    ±FPС: 0/4/1
T01:    01    00/00/001    00/04/001    WORK BOAT  (004/030)    
T02:    01    00/00/002    00/04/001    WORK BOAT  (008/030)    
T03:    01    00/00/003    00/04/001    WORK BOAT  (012/030)    
T04:    01    00/00/004    00/04/001    WORK BOAT  (016/030)    
T05:    01    00/00/005    00/04/001    WORK BOAT  (020/030)    
T06:    01    00/00/006    00/04/001    WORK BOAT  (024/030)    
T07:    01    00/00/007    00/04/001    WORK BOAT  (028/030)    
T08:    01    00/02/008    04/01/004    WORKER     (000/060)    -> WORK BOAT     ±FPС: 4/-3/3
T09:    01    00/00/012    04/01/004    WORKER     (007/060)    
T10:    01    00/00/016    04/01/004    WORKER     (012/060)    
T11:    01    00/00/020    04/01/004    WORKER     (017/060)    
T12:    01    00/00/024    04/01/004    WORKER     (022/060)    
T13:    01    00/00/028    04/01/004    WORKER     (027/060)    
T14:    01    00/00/032    04/01/004    WORKER     (032/060)    
T15:    01    00/00/036    04/01/004    WORKER     (037/060)    
T16:    01    00/00/040    04/01/004    WORKER     (042/060)    
T17:    01    00/00/044    04/01/004    WORKER     (047/060)    
T18:    01    00/00/048    04/01/004    WORKER     (052/060)    
T19:    01    00/00/052    04/01/004    WORKER     (057/060)    
T20:    01    00/02/056    04/01/004    WARRIOR    (000/015)    -> WORKER
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December 21st, 2013, 03:03 (This post was last modified: December 21st, 2013, 07:14 by Furungy.)
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It not easy to start here with my initial techs. They are Mining and Fishing and at the same time my food resource is weak and I can not build mines because all nearby hills have forests. Anyway I love Romans. There are many players in this game, so I predict early war and I'll have a huge advantage with aggressive Praetorians.



I will need to make a chose at T10: ANIMAL HUSBANDRY vs BRONZE WORKING. The 2nd is better. As you will see in my calculations below I will be able to do settler at T38 with BW. More over, at T38 Slavery civic will be already adopted and one mine will be built. AH will provide me settler at T42, Slavery still will not be adopted, no mines, 2nd worker will be available only at T43, much of wasted turns of the 1st worker.

ANIMAL HASBANDRY
Code:
T08:    01    00/00/000    04/01/012    WORKER     (000/060)    ±FPС: 4/1/12
T09:    01    00/00/012    04/01/012    WORKER     (005/060)    
T10:    01    00/00/024    04/01/012    WORKER     (010/060)    AGRICULTURE    
T11:    01    00/00/036    04/01/012    WORKER     (015/060)    
T12:    01    00/00/048    04/01/012    WORKER     (020/060)    
T13:    01    00/00/060    04/01/012    WORKER     (025/060)    
T14:    01    00/00/072    04/01/012    WORKER     (030/060)    
T15:    01    00/00/084    04/01/012    WORKER     (035/060)    
T16:    01    00/00/096    04/01/012    WORKER     (040/060)    
T17:    01    00/00/108    04/01/012    WORKER     (045/060)    
T18:    01    00/00/120    04/01/012    WORKER     (050/060)    
T19:    01    00/00/132    04/01/012    WORKER     (055/060)    
T20:    01    00/00/144    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (000/015)    -> WORKER        
T21:    01    04/00/156    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (001/015)    
T22:    01    08/00/168    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (002/015)    ANIMAL HUSBANDRY (12)    
T23:    01    12/00/180    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (003/015)    
T24:    01    16/00/192    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (004/015)    
T25:    01    20/00/204    04/02/010    WARRIOR    (005/015)    FARM    ±FPС: 0/1/-2
T26:    02    02/00/214    06/02/013    WARRIOR    (007/015)    ±FPС: 2/0/3
T27:    02    08/00/227    06/02/013    WARRIOR    (009/015)    
T28:    02    14/00/240    06/02/013    WARRIOR    (011/015)    
T29:    02    20/00/253    06/02/013    WARRIOR    (013/015)    
T30:    03    02/00/266    06/03/014    SETTLER    (000/100)    -> WARRIOR       ±FPС: 0/1/1
T31:    03    02/00/280    07/05/014    SETTLER    (009/100)    PASTURE, NOTHING TODO FOR WORKER UNTIL BW    ±FPС: 1/2/0
T32:    03    02/00/294    07/05/014    SETTLER    (021/100)    
T33:    03    02/00/308    07/05/014    SETTLER    (033/100)    
T34:    03    02/00/322    07/05/014    SETTLER    (045/100)    
T35:    03    02/00/336    07/05/014    SETTLER    (057/100)    
T36:    03    02/00/350    07/05/014    SETTLER    (069/100)    
T37:    03    02/00/364    07/05/014    SETTLER    (081/100)    BRONZE WORKING (15)    
T38:    03    02/00/378    07/05/014    SETTLER    (093/100)    
T39:    03    02/20/392    07/05/014    WARRIOR    (015/015)*   -> SETTLER       CHOP    
T40:    03    09/25/406    07/05/014    WORKER     (000/060)    -> WARRIOR      
T41:    03    09/00/420    07/05/014    WORKER     (037/060)    
T42:    03    09/00/434    07/05/014    WORKER     (049/060)    
T43:    03    09/01/448    07/05/014    -> WORKER

BRONZE WORKING (my chose)
Code:
T08:    01    00/02/000    04/01/012    WORKER     (000/060)    ±FPС: 4/1/12
T09:    01    00/00/012    04/01/012    WORKER     (007/060)    
T10:    01    00/00/024    04/01/012    WORKER     (012/060)    AGRICULTURE    
T11:    01    00/00/036    04/01/012    WORKER     (017/060)    
T12:    01    00/00/048    04/01/012    WORKER     (022/060)    
T13:    01    00/00/060    04/01/012    WORKER     (027/060)    
T14:    01    00/00/072    04/01/012    WORKER     (032/060)    
T15:    01    00/00/084    04/01/012    WORKER     (037/060)    
T16:    01    00/00/096    04/01/012    WORKER     (042/060)    
T17:    01    00/00/108    04/01/012    WORKER     (047/060)    
T18:    01    00/00/120    04/01/012    WORKER     (052/060)    
T19:    01    00/00/132    04/01/012    WORKER     (057/060)    
T20:    01    00/02/144    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (000/015)    -> WORKER        
T21:    01    04/00/156    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (003/015)    
T22:    01    08/00/168    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (004/015)    
T23:    01    12/00/180    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (005/015)    
T24:    01    16/00/192    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (006/015)    
T25:    01    20/00/204    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (007/015)    BRONZE WORKING (15 TURNS)    WHEAT FARM    
T26:    02    02/00/216    06/02/013    WARRIOR    (008/015)    ±FPС: 2/1/1
T27:    02    08/00/229    06/02/013    WARRIOR    (010/015)    
T28:    02    14/00/242    06/02/013    WARRIOR    (012/015)    
T29:    02    20/29/255    06/02/013    WARRIOR    (015/015)*   CHOP    
T30:    03    02/31/268    06/03/014    WORKER     (000/060)    -> WARRIOR       ±FPС: 0/1/1
T31:    03    02/00/282    06/03/014    WORKER     (040/060)    
T32:    03    02/00/296    06/03/014    WORKER     (049/060)    
T33:    03    02/28/310    06/03/014    WORKER     (060/060)*   CHOP    
T34:    03    02/37/324    06/03/014    SETTLER    (000/100)    -> WORKER        
T35:    03    02/00/338    00/00/000    SETTLER    (046/100)    REVOLUTION    ±FPС: -6/-3/-14
T36:    03    02/00/338    06/03/014    SETTLER    (046/100)    ±FPС: 6/3/14
T37:    02    02/15/352    06/02/013    SETTLER    (100/100)*   MINE    CHOP    WHIP (1)    ±FPС: 0/-1/-1
T38:    02    02/23/365    06/02/013    WARRIOR    (000/015)    -> SETTLER       ANIMAL HUSBANDRY (12 TURNS)    
T39:    02    08/10/378    06/02/013    WARRIOR    (000/015)    -> WARRIOR
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December 21st, 2013, 09:35 (This post was last modified: December 21st, 2013, 09:36 by Furungy.)
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Another subscenario of BW way
BRONZE WORKING (CHOP INSTEAD OF WHIP)
Code:
T08:    01    00/02/000    04/01/012    WORKER     (000/060)    ±FPС: 4/1/12
T09:    01    00/00/012    04/01/012    WORKER     (007/060)    
T10:    01    00/00/024    04/01/012    WORKER     (012/060)    AGRICULTURE    
T11:    01    00/00/036    04/01/012    WORKER     (017/060)    
T12:    01    00/00/048    04/01/012    WORKER     (022/060)    
T13:    01    00/00/060    04/01/012    WORKER     (027/060)    
T14:    01    00/00/072    04/01/012    WORKER     (032/060)    
T15:    01    00/00/084    04/01/012    WORKER     (037/060)    
T16:    01    00/00/096    04/01/012    WORKER     (042/060)    
T17:    01    00/00/108    04/01/012    WORKER     (047/060)    
T18:    01    00/00/120    04/01/012    WORKER     (052/060)    
T19:    01    00/00/132    04/01/012    WORKER     (057/060)    
T20:    01    00/02/144    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (000/015)    -> WORKER        
T21:    01    04/00/156    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (003/015)    
T22:    01    08/00/168    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (004/015)    
T23:    01    12/00/180    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (005/015)    
T24:    01    16/00/192    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (006/015)    
T25:    01    20/00/204    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (007/015)    BRONZE WORKING (15 TURNS)    WHEAT FARM    
T26:    02    02/00/216    06/02/013    WARRIOR    (008/015)    ±FPС: 2/1/1
T27:    02    08/00/229    06/02/013    WARRIOR    (010/015)    
T28:    02    14/00/242    06/02/013    WARRIOR    (012/015)    
T29:    02    20/29/255    06/02/013    WARRIOR    (015/015)*   CHOP    
T30:    03    02/31/268    06/03/014    WORKER     (000/060)    -> WARRIOR       ±FPС: 0/1/1
T31:    03    02/00/282    06/03/014    WORKER     (040/060)    
T32:    03    02/00/296    06/03/014    WORKER     (049/060)    
T33:    03    02/28/310    06/03/014    WORKER     (060/060)*   CHOP    
T34:    03    02/37/324    06/03/014    SETTLER    (000/100)    -> WORKER        
T35:    03    02/00/338    06/03/014    SETTLER    (046/100)    
T36:    03    02/00/352    06/03/014    SETTLER    (055/100)    
T37:    03    02/24/366    06/03/014    SETTLER    (100/100)*   CHOP    CHOP    
T38:    03    02/33/380    06/03/014    WARRIOR    (000/015)    -> SETTLER       ANIMAL HUSBANDRY (12 TURNS)    
T39:    03    08/21/394    06/03/014    BARRACKS   (000/050)    -> WARRIOR
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December 23rd, 2013, 14:40 (This post was last modified: December 23rd, 2013, 14:40 by Furungy.)
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Another chop scenario to consider.
Code:
T08:    01    00/02/000    04/01/012    WORKER     (000/060)    ±FPС: 4/1/12
T09:    01    00/00/012    04/01/012    WORKER     (007/060)    
T10:    01    00/00/024    04/01/012    WORKER     (012/060)    AGRICULTURE    
T11:    01    00/00/036    04/01/012    WORKER     (017/060)    
T12:    01    00/00/048    04/01/012    WORKER     (022/060)    
T13:    01    00/00/060    04/01/012    WORKER     (027/060)    
T14:    01    00/00/072    04/01/012    WORKER     (032/060)    
T15:    01    00/00/084    04/01/012    WORKER     (037/060)    
T16:    01    00/00/096    04/01/012    WORKER     (042/060)    
T17:    01    00/00/108    04/01/012    WORKER     (047/060)    
T18:    01    00/00/120    04/01/012    WORKER     (052/060)    
T19:    01    00/00/132    04/01/012    WORKER     (057/060)    
T20:    01    00/02/144    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (000/015)    -> WORKER        
T21:    01    04/00/156    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (003/015)    
T22:    01    08/00/168    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (004/015)    
T23:    01    12/00/180    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (005/015)    
T24:    01    16/00/192    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (006/015)    
T25:    01    20/00/204    04/01/012    WARRIOR    (007/015)    BRONZE WORKING (15 TURNS)    WHEAT FARM    
T26:    02    02/00/216    06/02/013    WORKER     (000/060)    WARRIOR    (008/015)    ±FPС: 2/1/1
T27:    02    02/00/229    06/02/013    WORKER     (008/060)    WARRIOR    (008/015)    
T28:    02    02/00/242    06/02/013    WORKER     (016/060)    WARRIOR    (008/015)    
T29:    02    02/00/255    06/02/013    WORKER     (054/060)    WARRIOR    (008/015)    CHOP    
T30:    02    02/02/268    06/02/013    WARRIOR    (008/015)    -> WORKER        
T31:    02    08/00/281    06/02/013    WARRIOR    (012/015)    
T32:    02    14/00/294    06/02/013    WARRIOR    (014/015)    
T33:    02    20/01/307    06/02/013    SETTLER    (060/100)    -> WARRIOR       CHOP    CHOP    
T34:    02    20/00/320    06/02/013    SETTLER    (069/100)    
T35:    02    20/00/333    06/02/013    SETTLER    (077/100)    
T36:    02    20/00/346    06/02/013    SETTLER    (085/100)    
T37:    02    20/53/359    06/02/013    SETTLER    (100/100)*   CHOP    CHOP    
T38:    02    20/61/372    06/02/013    WARRIOR    (000/015)    -> SETTLER       ANIMAL HUSBANDRY (12 TURNS)
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December 24th, 2013, 21:02 (This post was last modified: December 24th, 2013, 21:02 by Ceiliazul.)
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Bummer about that crab placement, pretty hard to dot that with your capital so close. Happy to see you in a mainstream game Furj, good luck!
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December 24th, 2013, 22:31
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(December 24th, 2013, 21:02)Ceiliazul Wrote: Bummer about that crab placement, pretty hard to dot that with your capital so close. Happy to see you in a mainstream game Furj, good luck!

Thanks, Ceiliazul!
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December 25th, 2013, 09:34
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Just noted that flugauto have made double move while we are at war. Of course it doesn't make much sence now, but it will be very nice if somebody ask him about his motivation and post his answer here.

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