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(June 26th, 2016, 18:28)darrelljs Wrote: You guys are more than welcome as the 51st state if going it alone proves too much In terms of US strategic thinking brexit removes any need to keep up any pretense of there being a secial relationship. Now that the UK's main international influence is gone what need does the US have for it?
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(June 26th, 2016, 18:42)Brian Shanahan Wrote:(June 26th, 2016, 18:28)darrelljs Wrote: You guys are more than welcome as the 51st state if going it alone proves too much Well, the United Kingdom and United States are major trading partners. The United Kingdom also seems to be somewhat more willing to apply force to international situations than much of the European Union (e.g. the 2003 Iraq war), a trait the United States has found useful. The United Kingdom remains one of the most important members of NATO, as well as a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council. On economic, military, and diplomatic grounds, then, the United States and United Kingdom would do well to retain as close a working relationship as they have now (which, of course, predates British membership in the European Union, and the European Union itself, in the first place). (I'm not sure I support the Brexit, and I'm even more concerned about the possible consequences for British unity; I just wanted to answer the question.)
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The US's concern about Brexit is less about Britain leaving the EU - it's the other consequences that are being unleashed. As THH said, Britain is still part of NATO and the UNSC.
1) UK has a real chance of being the formerly-united Kingdom. How useful would the Kingdom of England and Wales be on the international stage? Especially if London loses a lot of money because it can't be the financial center of Europe. 2) The EU has a real chance of splintering - it's already in a slow-burning crisis over the Euro and political issues from refugees. 3) Russia. This is a risk of #2 - Russia's trying to consolidate its old sphere of influence, and if the EU is a less effective counterweight, then that becomes more likely.
It was just a referendum and completely elite-opposed; over-under for anything actually happening practically?
Also, if the EU cracks up, what are the other portmanteaus? -Frexit -Italeave -Portuflees -Finished
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I heard a nationalist party in Netherlands talk about a Nexit.
Regrexit is my fav tho
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Dodo Tier Player (June 26th, 2016, 21:10)Commodore Wrote: It was just a referendum and completely elite-opposed; over-under for anything actually happening practically? Very unlikely the EU allows them to backpedal. They're already pushing hard for the UK to expedite beginning the formal process of withdraw. They have to make an example of them, lest these events (and attendant market panics) become semi-regular occurrences. Plus it'd be incredibly politically risky for UK "elites" to ignore the referendum, the measure passed with a convincing level of public support and high voter turnout. Nigel Farage would reap an incredible amount of capital. (June 26th, 2016, 21:10)Commodore Wrote: It was just a referendum and completely elite-opposed; over-under for anything actually happening practically? Brexit. Grexit. Departugal. Italeave. Fruckoff. Czechout. Oustria. Finish. Slovakout. Latervia. Byegium. |
