Specifically, I think any civ that starts Hunting has to make up for it with the second tech. Myst is as I've said worthless for me and Mining as second tech means with 100% certainty researching Agri or AH first, but I sersiously dislike Sury on these settings: There is no real early game advantage from getting more cities down sooner it's all about getting them productive.
[SPOILERS] Krill smokes some weed - PBEM50
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