[SPOILERS] Yossarian blames Caledorn

[Krill]

Maybe I'm being overly sensitive, but I feel like this game has been unpopular on RB and I've been thinking about why that might be.

But there is a general perception here that Civ ought to be more like chess and a puzzle game, where the best optimizer should win, than a game of grand strategy and mind games among humans with Civ as the battleground for it.

Also, nobody is really reporting this game from the point of view of trying to entertain or educate lurkers. Most posts are diplo-dumps which are both hard for a lurker to follow and also very boring in a vacuum. For the gold standard, contrast with Sullla's reporting for PB2. If someone were putting in that kind of effort, people would be flocking in.

You seem to imply that out of game diplomacy and tech trading are what makes "Grand Strategy" and "Mind Games". That's just wrong. What they do create is a metagame where game knowledge is actually a drawback because players can decide, using totally arbitrary reasoning, to dog pile a player so that they cannot win the game. And the best people to dog pile are those that have better civ skills. Regardless of how you report these games, they are just not interesting if what you want to read are games that involve micromanagement and strategic decision making. If you linked to it from CFC you'd possibly break the RB server though.

First, Krill is a genius but smugly criticizing the players in this game as "sub-optimal" without any specific points, when he himself doesn't even play diplo games or even BtS games, is pretty beyond the pale.

I am quite amazed by the audacity of this statement. If you want me to go and post spoilers from your thread in a public location, then sure I can go and give specific reasons why this game has been played out in a sub-optimal manner, but that is generally frowned upon. On top of that, it doesn't matter that I, or any other posters on this site don't play games with diplomacy or any other settings. We have played games with diplomacy, and with tech trading, and we don't anymore because we learnt that we don't enjoy those settings. It is frankly nonsensical to take the position that because we learnt what we don't enjoy, and why we don't enjoy it, that we never understood it in the first place.

And on top of that you are misrepresenting what I said: I never commented on the players. This is what I posted:

Not really, it is a game that has been played out incredibly sub-optimal fashion in places, regardless of personal opinions. That is not a generalization, that's truth.

There is a difference between saying someone is stupid, and what someone said is stupid. Like when I say your post is stupid, but you aren't.

Also I'm not a genius.