(November 23rd, 2018, 18:09)Rusten Wrote: I could be persuaded to settle pigs+copper as 5th or 6th and ignore copper until then. With the copper being 1st ring that is feasible. Closer to AH by then too.
Your suggested city #4 has only dry corn in 1st which is not that amazing and then has to pop borders for copper so it's neither a quick starter nor does it pick up copper.
But you have the final say of course.
Given that dry corn is the best time we have beyond the city 3 wet corn, I think it is less about what is a fast started in absolute terms, and what is going to be quickest here. We could completly change this plan, and just go Agri>AH, and then to pottery, but that doesn't help the problem of every city hitting size 4 happy cap and we have nothing to do except slave axes. In fact, unless we have a way to get 2 happy into each city I don't think we can do anything longer term. We will just get run over by someone that did luck out with precalendar happy who could rush HBR, which is the main reason I'm flippant about copper. I feel any plan about rushing to 4 cities and a capital granary is about then being prepared to spam out and defend 2 cities that grab distant happy resources, and we are stuck planning for something we don't know is true.
Anyway, if we split the pigs.from the capital, it has to be at size 5 with 2 cottages and 2 mines, or 4 cottages and a granary to be of any real value, as we stop all horizontal expansion to give the pig over. I can't see how we can fit that in earlier than city 5?