Turn 132
This is likely gobbledegook but nothing for it. I need to play this turn because of developments.
OH finished Parth. Doesn't surprise me, but we now have 732 gold saved, enough for two turns of 100% tech, and one turn of somewhere between 50% and 100% tech dependent of wealth builds. SoZ is in Constant Sorrow, between his two front cities, and Part is in the island city at the mouth of the bar with Cairo.
We make 400 base beakers per turn at 100% tech though, which is enough to complete either CoL or Monarchy in a single turn. Therefore we complete Priesthood this turn at 100%, then CoL eot133 ay 100%, and finish Monarchy eot134 with a golden age started T135. We will finish Monarchy whilst saving gold IMO, as Priesthood only just needs over 10% slider to be completed this turn. This should still leave enough gold around to one turn HBR if needed.
Every is popping golden ages. Cairo is about to finish his. OH will start his with a GP he popped last turn. OT4E has a GS sitting in position to start his when he is set up for it. Superdeath started his and revolted into Bureaucracy last turn.
Only...I'm not sure how much I need HR right now. Civil Service is known by at least 2 players. At least 4 players know CoL, and we have Medieval era known tech bonus now. 3 turns of 100% tech gets me Priesthood, CoL and over 1000 beakers of CS which is 1288 beakers. Theoretically I could get CS eot135, and trigger a GA a turn later. Monarchy could easily be researched by the end of the GA as I clear up the cheaper techs (HBR, Construction).
Bureaucracy costs 12gpt, but gives an immediate 27 commerce per turn outside a GA, 40 in a GA. Given the question is Bureau at start of end of the GA, only the GA figures matter. I'll be charitable at breakeven rate of 20%, which is right for out of a GA, but as costs are constant, all the GA commerce goes straight into tech, let's say 33% breakeven slider in the GA. 26 commerce through 25% gold modifier, 13 commerce through 75% science modifier. 32gpt and 22bpt from Bureaucracy for 7 turns. 140 gold, 150 beakers net. Gold gets pushed back through the global beaker modifiers but I'm not working that out. Roughly, rushing to CS and revolting gives about 300 beakers, low ball. So it basically pays for HBR. Civil Service first is the plan, but re-evaluate tomorrow after the turn has rolled and when I'm not sleep deprived.
Risks that are being taken: OH should trigger a GA this turn, and he has enough gold to head for chucklenauts. He has iron hooked, and he has SoZ but no HE. We also seem to be good on the border, but that doesn't mean anything. Still, he is not going to be capable of two turning Machinery IMO, he will finish it in 3 turns, eot134, then he has to build and stack, and then position it. And he has Donovan with 4 cities nearby, and CKN are the famous naval collateral, and OH will be more than capable of wrecking Lewwyn, if Lewwyn tries to intervene:
I offered OB to DZ, maybe he takes it. He doesn't need to though.
Other risk is superjm may be in the process of stacking up, but we are dumping EP onto him, and again, HBR and construction after CS.
I have gone back through the city list and put what I can on wealth this turn, I can take them off next if not needed, or I don't go for Bureaucracy at the start of the golden age.
Power sucks, but given HBR or Construction should be down as the first tech in the GA, this should not be too difficult to rectify. I'm drawn back to the comments I made in PB37 regarding Cour and Wealth building though.
One thing of note though: Gav is building Wealth. We have generated over 750 gold from failed wonder builds that don't show in this graph. We do need to get court houses down though.
Question for you Dreylin: Why the monument? Given an expected revolt to Caste T134, borders would pop eot135 anyway, and with no other place to get a workboat out of, the chop should have gone into the workboat. As it is the monument will not pop borders until eot138 which actually means this is even slower, and there is no workboat to hook the fish anyway! Or those 30 hammers into the monument would have finished the granary and the workboat could have been whipped the turn of revolting into Caste, at worst delaying popping borders to eot136 in that scenario.
My fault though, I should have given more precise MM.
This is likely gobbledegook but nothing for it. I need to play this turn because of developments.
OH finished Parth. Doesn't surprise me, but we now have 732 gold saved, enough for two turns of 100% tech, and one turn of somewhere between 50% and 100% tech dependent of wealth builds. SoZ is in Constant Sorrow, between his two front cities, and Part is in the island city at the mouth of the bar with Cairo.
We make 400 base beakers per turn at 100% tech though, which is enough to complete either CoL or Monarchy in a single turn. Therefore we complete Priesthood this turn at 100%, then CoL eot133 ay 100%, and finish Monarchy eot134 with a golden age started T135. We will finish Monarchy whilst saving gold IMO, as Priesthood only just needs over 10% slider to be completed this turn. This should still leave enough gold around to one turn HBR if needed.
Every is popping golden ages. Cairo is about to finish his. OH will start his with a GP he popped last turn. OT4E has a GS sitting in position to start his when he is set up for it. Superdeath started his and revolted into Bureaucracy last turn.
Only...I'm not sure how much I need HR right now. Civil Service is known by at least 2 players. At least 4 players know CoL, and we have Medieval era known tech bonus now. 3 turns of 100% tech gets me Priesthood, CoL and over 1000 beakers of CS which is 1288 beakers. Theoretically I could get CS eot135, and trigger a GA a turn later. Monarchy could easily be researched by the end of the GA as I clear up the cheaper techs (HBR, Construction).
Bureaucracy costs 12gpt, but gives an immediate 27 commerce per turn outside a GA, 40 in a GA. Given the question is Bureau at start of end of the GA, only the GA figures matter. I'll be charitable at breakeven rate of 20%, which is right for out of a GA, but as costs are constant, all the GA commerce goes straight into tech, let's say 33% breakeven slider in the GA. 26 commerce through 25% gold modifier, 13 commerce through 75% science modifier. 32gpt and 22bpt from Bureaucracy for 7 turns. 140 gold, 150 beakers net. Gold gets pushed back through the global beaker modifiers but I'm not working that out. Roughly, rushing to CS and revolting gives about 300 beakers, low ball. So it basically pays for HBR. Civil Service first is the plan, but re-evaluate tomorrow after the turn has rolled and when I'm not sleep deprived.
Risks that are being taken: OH should trigger a GA this turn, and he has enough gold to head for chucklenauts. He has iron hooked, and he has SoZ but no HE. We also seem to be good on the border, but that doesn't mean anything. Still, he is not going to be capable of two turning Machinery IMO, he will finish it in 3 turns, eot134, then he has to build and stack, and then position it. And he has Donovan with 4 cities nearby, and CKN are the famous naval collateral, and OH will be more than capable of wrecking Lewwyn, if Lewwyn tries to intervene:
I offered OB to DZ, maybe he takes it. He doesn't need to though.
Other risk is superjm may be in the process of stacking up, but we are dumping EP onto him, and again, HBR and construction after CS.
I have gone back through the city list and put what I can on wealth this turn, I can take them off next if not needed, or I don't go for Bureaucracy at the start of the golden age.
Power sucks, but given HBR or Construction should be down as the first tech in the GA, this should not be too difficult to rectify. I'm drawn back to the comments I made in PB37 regarding Cour and Wealth building though.
One thing of note though: Gav is building Wealth. We have generated over 750 gold from failed wonder builds that don't show in this graph. We do need to get court houses down though.
Question for you Dreylin: Why the monument? Given an expected revolt to Caste T134, borders would pop eot135 anyway, and with no other place to get a workboat out of, the chop should have gone into the workboat. As it is the monument will not pop borders until eot138 which actually means this is even slower, and there is no workboat to hook the fish anyway! Or those 30 hammers into the monument would have finished the granary and the workboat could have been whipped the turn of revolting into Caste, at worst delaying popping borders to eot136 in that scenario.
My fault though, I should have given more precise MM.