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(June 30th, 2013, 04:24)zakalwe Wrote: Good analysis, Matt. To repeat my earlier thought: Maybe force Jowy to claim (again)? Might be necessary I order to lock down his claim, given that this town doesn't enforce a "lynch all liars" policy. He seemed pretty locked in on 'vanilla town' - I seem to recall questioning him about it when he made the initial, slightly unclear claim.
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I'm not seeing an argument against JKaen.
All I see is the meta of revealed roles, but remember, people can have double roles, people can be lying about roles etc.
Like serdoa said. don't over meta the game.
Could someone explain to me why Matt played bad revealing Lewwyns actions night 1?
Why would you, on tracking someone to a dead body (wolf or no) not reveal it?
I mean their more likely to be a wolf then not, especially if you assume two factions.
I'm not certain about two factions though, nor certain about one.
I actually think Gazglums possessed idea is possible.
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(June 30th, 2013, 04:32)Qgqqqqq Wrote: Like serdoa said. don't over meta the game. I believe he said "don't meta my wording".
(for which I have to apologise, Serdoa, for doing exactly that to support the idea there are no ghouls left).
Quote:Could someone explain to me why Matt played bad revealing Lewwyns actions night 1?
Why would you, on tracking someone to a dead body (wolf or no) not reveal it?
I mean their more likely to be a wolf then not, especially if you assume two factions.
I believe the justification was "don't reveal yourself to be an investigative role when we probably wanted the person that turned up dead that way anyway." Just as easy to track again the following night, and see if their target turns up dead again, before accusing - and doesn't really carry that much risk of dying before you can impart the information.
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Jkaen is still a total blank to me. Lack of time, sure I get it. He's done this before as village. However he could equally well be scum and it's impossible to tell.
Let's not policy lynch him though. We don't get much information out of that. Just vig him instead if he continues to be a blank.
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As an option on lewwyns role, it's pretty common to have a scum role seer, that could be one explanation for him visiting now and not killing. His partner could then dothe kills instead
In fact the protection part of his claimed role would make perfect sense as a WW role as well.
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(June 30th, 2013, 04:25)Mattimeo Wrote: We have two people who've not claimed *anything*, and what definitely appears to be an undiscovered protective role out there. I don't know that forcing a claim out of either Jkaen or Gazglum is necessarily something we should be pressing at this point - at least some ambiguity as to who prevented the kill last night would be useful, I should think.
On the other hand, given the revelation that Lewwyn's ability only detects ghouls, not wolves, I can't see any reason not to reveal that I tracked him to Jowy on N2. Any particular reason for visiting Jowy, Lewwyn?
that clear up lewwyn for me, since im alive. unless i was protect against lewwyn attack, but only two player not role-claim so far, and both are who i have target before. so why protect me if they are protector? again i think more simple option is more likely.
(June 30th, 2013, 05:41)Jkaen Wrote: As an option on lewwyns role, it's pretty common to have a scum role seer, that could be one explanation for him visiting now and not killing. His partner could then dothe kills instead
In fact the protection part of his claimed role would make perfect sense as a WW role as well.
only lewwyn visit azza when azza die.
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Night 1 lewwyn could have performed the team kill, then on subsequent nights when he knew he would be followed, he got the other wolf to kill.
Infant he insisted upon being followed night 2 ensuring the other wolf wouldn't be and he would have a nice alibi
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(June 30th, 2013, 05:47)Jkaen Wrote: Night 1 lewwyn could have performed the team kill, then on subsequent nights when he knew he would be followed, he got the other wolf to kill.
Infant he insisted upon being followed night 2 ensuring the other wolf wouldn't be and he would have a nice alibi
Or because Matt and I are the only people who claimed village roles we would be the targets so if I was killed Matt would have a lead. Yes you could decide it he other way too but if you were a villager in my position wouldn't you have suggested the same thing??
I protected jowy because he is the strongest village read I have.
If I were a wolf or had a wolf mate, why didn't I kill last night? Why didn't my wolf mate kill last night? I splu don't see a scum faction not trying to kill.
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Lewwyn, the no wolf kill is independent of who the wolf is, so I don't see how you use that as defence for it being you
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Lewwyn Wrote:He made a post I found to be pretty villagery. Pretty good and communicative. Reminded me a lot of Ww17. Could be village could be scum. Of all the players Azza is the one I probably have the most difficulty getting a read on.
Post 519 by lewwyn concerning azza. I don't understand it. IIRC Lewwyn said that azza was a village read and he wasn't trying to kill him. Why protect azza then? He's not often a player killed early by scum.
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