Airstrip One Palace Court - No Players!

[Jabah]

the 3 tiles apart are only for cities on the same landmass, so nothing wrong with this.

[Krill]

Wow. Exploit goes off the deep end and demanded cities from regoarrarr for a 40 turn NAP. Anyone believe that he could really take them? And what about the rifle number? He's only got to get as far as Lockland and then sunrise is completely cut off from land reinforcements from every member of his alliance. It'd be bloody to get that far, but once that's achieved...juicy shrines to capture.





The two dots are the best places for regoarrarr to stack his units if he wants to defend sunrise as well, without railroads, from exploit. With railroads, it doesn't really matter, any where is good enough to defend against a 1 mover stack. Which is where Exploits sheer numbers advantage come in...

[Spronz]

Well I hope that his war game is better than his diplomacy as he certainly isn't showing any finesse on that front. I'm still not convinced his attack is going to go all that well, there's a lot of ground to cover and past fights have shown that Regoarrarr is better at tactics. I think he'll certainly capture some border towns from sheer numbers but will get bogged down and his army worn out before he does anything to regoarrarr's core.

The big problem I see though is that with these past few messages and chest thumping done by Exploit that it could give Reg the ammo he needs to get people to finally unite against the leader in the game. Both from his own team and potentially from Exploit's own alliance. At the very least if they're spread around I don't think he could count on a lot of help from his allies if things get tough after trying to make grabs at two vassals in his team and big demands for concessions from other team based on him being the strongest around.

[Sullla]

Exploit may well come out on top, but I certainly wouldn't be demanding that my own allies vassal themselves to me...

[MWIN]

There is no reason to alienate Lins and Broker (never mind Rome and Zulu) when the opposition is strong together...

[Bobchillingworth]

Yeah, Exploit talks a great game, but he doesn't seem to have done much so far except draw up grandiose plans and lose a few cities. The logistics of moving dozens of rifles around to various fronts across a huge map without railroads looks like a nightmare.

[Krill]

Actually the tactics of a war are really simple. Draft rifles and build cavs, and forget about the cannons. Move in the entire stack of rifles, plus a few cheap fast movers, onto 2SW of Evendale, make sure a couple have guerilla. Nex turn move the entire stack of rifles minus the guerilla ones NE next to evendale, and move the entire cav stack onto the hill, and use the cheap fast movers to cut roads so the cav can't be hit. regoarrarr has no choice but to collateral the stack, maybe hit with cav, and then stick behind the culture defence. Then Exploit revolts the city and just suicides the rifles into the city and wipes out everything regoarrarr has.

If Exploit does come up with a 100 rifle stack and a 30 stack of cav, then regoarrarr is basically either dead, or not teching because he has drafted everything into unhappiness. Exploit doesn't have to do anything particulary fancy, but if he did this and went for Democracy so that the reject alliance (RA?) emancipates the other side into oblivion, the RA doesn't have to do anything fancy to win in the short term, and gain an economic advantage. That also allows Exploit to build SoL in CC (best hammer city, could do with a few farms and then workshops over cottages though to grow the city before the build). And it opens up Security Bureaus for more espionage.

As to the logistics: just move everything to PP. That pretty much covers any attack on him.

Anyway, that's how I'd play it, probably draft another 10 rifles just to be on the safe side and send them to the east to cover the coast, and then draft to support Munro. regoarrarr and sunrise will almost certainly agree to give up some gold to Exploit for what is a very short term NAP, so all Exploit has to weigh up is the ability to damage regoarrarrs' teching more than he has done (he is already starting to run out of money) or supporting Rome. I think Exploits' biggest mistake is not talking with Lins in more detail about this, but OTOH Lins can use an army to hit Shady with, so it's not like they are short of targets.

[Krill]

As for spoils, I am sure that would be one of the major arguments that you would hear - that taking out Exploit just replaces one uber-power (him) with another (me). I would be willing to do what I can to prevent that from happening. I make no claims on any of Exploit's lands. The areas north of you can go to you and/or Sunrise, and the areas to Exploit's west can go to Munro or Imhotep.

Er...I think this was tried 65 turns ago, and it didn't end all that well then either. And this time the Incans have even more power available. And then regoarrarr got annoyed because he got dragged into the war and tried to rejig the alliances.

Will Lins and Broker fall for the same trick again and get played into a war of aggression against the Incans to benefit regoarrarr? Broker is quite happy to be gobbling up Kodiis land, but what does Dreylin want? A piece of sunrise for jumping ship, or land that got taken from him?

[MWIN]

Big difference, Krill is not at helm of inca anymore? Not sure what exploit is trying to do with his diplomacy, he need to be more subtle and compromising...

Er...I think this was tried 65 turns ago, and it didn't end all that well then either. And this time the Incans have even more power available. And then regoarrarr got annoyed because he got dragged into the war and tried to rejig the alliances.

Will Lins and Broker fall for the same trick again and get played into a war of aggression against the Incans to benefit regoarrarr? Broker is quite happy to be gobbling up Kodiis land, but what does Dreylin want? A piece of sunrise for jumping ship, or land that got taken from him?

[Spronz]

Exactly what I figured was going to start happening. All the chest thumping, intimidation and pointing out how big and strong he is has pushed people to decide to do something about him sooner rather than later. Best to play small when you're big.

Broker is also a lot better I think at diplomacy than Reg so much less chance of this failing to come together. It's perfect for Broker though. Not only does he keep what he's gotten from war with Kodii but he also gets concessions, gets peace with no long dragging on war, peace on his borders and everybody else going to war.

I'd be surprised if something didn't come together, the question is more so if it's going to be able to happen before Exploit makes a big push.