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Adventure Fifty-Four: Hill Valley - CLOSING DAY

#11
August 7th, 2012, 19:37
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#12
August 10th, 2012, 22:46
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Can I ask a game related question about the Guerilla promotion?

The info I have on these promotions is as follows ...

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Promotion      Requires      Leads to       Available to
Guerilla I     n/a           Guerilla II    Recon, Archery, Gunpowder
Guerilla II    Guerilla I    Guerilla III   Recon, Archery, Gunpowder, Melee
Guerilla III   Guerilla II   n/a            Archery, Gunpowder, Melee

This is from CFC and confirmed by civopedia. Now, the question I have is ... how does a melee unit get the Guerilla II promotion?
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August 10th, 2012, 23:03 (This post was last modified: August 11th, 2012, 10:24 by Merovech.)
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Ruff_Hi Wrote:Can I ask a game related question about the Guerilla promotion?

The info I have on these promotions is as follows ...

Code:
Promotion      Requires      Leads to       Available to
Guerilla I     n/a           Guerilla II    Recon, Archery, Gunpowder
Guerilla II    Guerilla I    Guerilla III   Recon, Archery, Gunpowder, Melee
Guerilla III   Guerilla II   n/a            Archery, Gunpowder, Melee

This is from CFC and confirmed by civopedia. Now, the question I have is ... how does a melee unit get the Guerilla II promotion?

Corrected by Lymond, see below.
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August 11th, 2012, 01:04 (This post was last modified: August 11th, 2012, 01:24 by lymond.)
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Only GWs get Guerilla promo line. Axes and Spears/Pikes do not get that promo nor does the Dun give melee units that promo despite the misleading Civlopedia entry. Maces can only get the promo from upgraded GWs, which is actually a pretty awesome setup if you war with your GWs early.

By the way, I think GWs are a very very underrated UU....at least on CFC. May be more love for it here.

Edit: Oh, I see now that the question refers to the GII description. IMO it is another Civlopedia mistake or simply referring to the special case of GWs having access to it by virtue of their innate GI promo. I've never seen a GI promo event before, but maybe the assumption is that if a melee unit somehow gets the GI promo it then has access to the rest of the Guerilla promo line.

Edit2: I check the XML. I could find no event that gives the Guerilla I promo to melee units. Also, note that attaching a Great General to a melee unit does not give access to the Guerrilla line. Therefore, I chalk it up to another Civlopedia error which may be related to the Dun error. Unless melee units had access to Guerilla in a prior version.
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#15
August 11th, 2012, 01:39
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It's not an error really. Civilopedia just reads data from the XML. G2 is available to melee units, but it also requires G1. So you must get G1 in some way to get G2. Just because only one melee unit can get G1 normally does not make the fact that melee units can take G2 wrong. If you give a melee unit G1 in Worldbuilder, it will be able to promote to G2.

The same applies to Drill 2+ and melee units, except in this case the special unit is the Samurai.
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#16
August 13th, 2012, 18:27
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#17
August 13th, 2012, 21:11
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#18
August 29th, 2012, 11:40
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September 8th, 2012, 13:52
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September 9th, 2012, 11:13
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