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Diplomacy Master Thread- Helping Your Opponents Beat Themselves

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February 25th, 2013, 18:28
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I agree with stating that the stone and spice gift are part of the agreement. I'd also spell out Non Agression Pact instead of using an abbreviation with which they may not be familiar.
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February 25th, 2013, 18:29 (This post was last modified: February 25th, 2013, 20:29 by scooter.)
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(February 25th, 2013, 18:21)NobleHelium Wrote: No mention of our stone and spices gift? I really think we should include it.

Total brainfart. Fixed.

Draft to Spanish Apolyton Wrote:Thanks for the explanation! Unfortunately we are bound to a non-aggression pact with CFC, so we cannot declare war on them. Otherwise it might be fun! Don't worry - we will not tell them of your plans smile. Also, we already have a deal with CFC where we are giving them Spices and Stone. I thought you should know that we agreed on that before you told us of your plans - we are not trying to help them against you!

Good luck!

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February 25th, 2013, 18:31
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Yeah, spelling out NAP sounds like a good idea.
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February 25th, 2013, 18:33
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I'm not going to spell out what a NAP is - that would be incredibly condescending. NAP is super common in basically all types of games - not just Civ.
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February 25th, 2013, 18:35
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(February 25th, 2013, 18:31)NobleHelium Wrote: Yeah, spelling out NAP sounds like a good idea.

But then we can no longer call it a NAP agreement...

*spins wheels*
I have to run.
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February 25th, 2013, 18:39
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(February 25th, 2013, 18:33)scooter Wrote: I'm not going to spell out what a NAP is - that would be incredibly condescending. NAP is super common in basically all types of games - not just Civ.

Not trying to undercut your authority or discount the great work you've done so far, but I'm not so sure.
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February 25th, 2013, 19:17 (This post was last modified: February 25th, 2013, 19:17 by Merovech.)
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Well, wikipedia is weird. Just write "non-aggression pact" instead of "NAP."

Do you want me to translate your message into Spanish?
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February 25th, 2013, 19:50
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(February 25th, 2013, 18:39)DaveV Wrote: Not trying to undercut your authority or discount the great work you've done so far, but I'm not so sure.

Bah - just give them that link and tell them we are referring to definition #21.
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February 25th, 2013, 19:55
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(February 25th, 2013, 19:17)Merovech Wrote: Well, wikipedia is weird. Just write "non-aggression pact" instead of "NAP."

Do you want me to translate your message into Spanish?

yes please. can we send the message in Spanish instead of English, please?

they opened the door to this by sending us their message in Spanish, so no talk about offending them smile.
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February 25th, 2013, 20:21
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(February 25th, 2013, 17:31)Sullla Wrote: CFC will easily defeat Spanish Apolyton in the long run. The only question is how much damage the crazy Spaniards will do before bowing out.

I agree with this... unless CFC is unfortunate enough to swap to Rep/Caste before the war starts. Then it might be very hard for them to mount a defense.

Long term, CFC will win regardless... but the damage could be more than we'd expect. The chances of this outcome seem like they go up if S.Poly delays their attack, right?
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