Diplomacy Master Thread- Helping Your Opponents Beat Themselves

[kjn]

I think we should get the deal with WPC as they proposed it. They don't have any money to send us in trade, and turning 40H into 1gpt in our future Wall Street city and one MP unit for our capital is a decent trade, and then we have the intangible of tying WPC tighter to us.

[kalin]

I was going to type what novice said: let's just agree with what they proposed.

Kalin

[Ichabod]

We could ask for scouting units, too. Like a guerilla 2 archer or a woodsman 2 archer (not sure if that's even possible).

[kjn]

We could ask for scouting units, too. Like a guerilla 2 archer or a woodsman 2 archer (not sure if that's even possible).

We can simply ask for unpromoted units, ie 6XP archers with all the promotions unused. Yeah, some G2 units can be quite handy to have. But no, archer units can't get Woodsman.

[Ruff_Hi]

Hello scooter and team RB,

I have discussed with and observed our people, and it seems that they are ready to cast away the pagan ways.
Our nation seems to be willing to adopt more organized religion, which surely will make the masses more happy.

We have sent a notice to our braves at the borders to allow your missionaries to step into our lands.
I can feel that this spiritual gift of powers stronger than any man, will make our nations strong.

Best regards,
Tatu of WPC

[Nicolae Carpathia]

I say send a couple, then focus on other stuff.

As for the trade, don't ask for money, it's too precious to such a backwards team. And I suspect a reason why they want to dump some archers on our lap is because of unit costs

[Tyrmith]

Is sending missionaries solely for the sake of shrine gold really worth it? 40 hammers for 1 gpt is not a good ratio for investment. Consider a simple market instead. At 150 hammers, in a city with 30 commerce running 50% cash (about our average for the near future), it produces 3.75 gpt which is the same ratio as these missionaries. Any city with over 30 commerce (now or in the near future) should be building markets not missionaries.

Remember, we're not only getting additional money for us, we're also taking away money from CFC, at a time when they desperately need it since they would have otherwise converted their cities to CFC's religion.

[Boldly Going Nowhere]

I say send a couple, then focus on other stuff.

As for the trade, don't ask for money, it's too precious to such a backwards team. And I suspect a reason why they want to dump some archers on our lap is because of unit costs

This was what occurred to me as well. I see no harm in helping them reduce unit costs. Free MP for us. Or, collateral sponges. Either way, let's take the initial offer, as many as they'd like to swap.

[NobleHelium]

If we send three missionaries and that makes them adopt Hindu in all cities each missionary is worth more like 3gpt. And if we get archers in return they only cost 16 hammers. So I think sending them 2 or 3 missionaries is okay, at least. Oh, and the 3gpt will get % modifiers added to them in our shrine city.

Yeah this is basically what I said. If under this deal we can send them three missionaries and get them to adopt Hinduism and give us one archer in return, I'd agree to that. I don't think we should keep building missionaries to trade for archers after that.

[Ceiliazul]

sounds good to me.