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Diplomacy Master Thread- Helping Your Opponents Beat Themselves

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March 28th, 2013, 18:26
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March 28th, 2013, 20:58
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So..... not even one person interested in logging into the game to check out that offer? Apparently kjn and I are the only ones who actually log into the game with any frequency. Well, here's what WPC had to say:

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These guys just refuse to use email for some reason. crazyeye Well, the real question is whether they want a fourth missionary, or if they are unaware of the third missionary that's moving next to their borders right now. If this deal is for the current missionary, then great! It's already about to move into their territory next turn. If they want yet another missionary (#4), then we're probably going to have to decline. We're swapping out of Organized Religion next turn, and we won't be returning to it for another 7t (i.e. nearly one month of real world time). We need clarification from them on this issue. I am not moving heaven and earth to get one more missionary to WPC when we've already sent them two and have a third one about to enter their territory.

Umm... have fun with these guys, scooter. They seem a bit crazy. lol
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March 28th, 2013, 23:52
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LOL at WPC. In defense of few people logging into the game, btw, it is modded with a mod that nobody else here ever uses (or, I'd imagine, really wants to use). I don't even have it downloaded.
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March 28th, 2013, 23:55
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I think this is the only way we'll ever have an archer. I sorta like the idea of having an archer even though we will never research archery.
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March 29th, 2013, 06:15
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I think we can assume the archer is payment for the third missionary, though it never hurts to make sure.
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March 29th, 2013, 08:40
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It could hurt to make sure if they decide to use it as an opportunity to squeeze a fourth Missionary smile.

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March 29th, 2013, 09:17
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Agree with darrell. I'd just say something like "Sure - sounds good. The missionary will be there next turn. Please gift the archer at <wherever we want it>"
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March 29th, 2013, 09:19
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We should definitely make sure. Or say something to the effect of, "yes, based upon our earlier discussion in chat, you offered to trade an archer for every missionary after the second. We have a third missionary on the way to you now, so we'd like a six experience archer with unspent promotions please. Please gift one at earliest opportunity - anywhere just inside our borders is fine. Thanks."
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March 29th, 2013, 09:21
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What is the advantage of "making sure" over acting like the Archer is for the third Missionary?

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March 29th, 2013, 09:25 (This post was last modified: March 29th, 2013, 09:26 by NobleHelium.)
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So that they don't start acting like we promised them a fourth missionary which we aren't going to build. Based upon their recent behavior, I'd say that's a distinct possibility. What is the disadvantage?
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