October 17th, 2011, 09:29
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Mardoc Wrote:I appreciate the offer, but I'm going to hold off for a few weeks until I'm confident in the basics, like remembering I have summoner spells, and whether it's a right click or a left click that actually makes a skill go off. There's not a whole lot you can advise me on while I'm still learning the interface.
Once I know how to walk, then you can teach me to run
It's okay, don't be intimidated. When you get the basics, there's a lot of advice we can give you and carry you through some normal games against more challenging opposition. As ub3rfish mentioned, if other roles intimidate you, you could try support - I know I started off my LoL "career" by playing bottom lane Zilean designed to revive and speed up people. After a few warmup games you can cheaply buy Soraka or Taric and learn the game on the sidelines - healing and assisting people and protecting yourself from harm's way. When you play by yourself, though, you probably want to learn a champion who has more effect on the game on his own - Garen and Sion are pretty easy to play.
October 17th, 2011, 09:32
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Jowy Wrote:Well everyone hates me so might as well quit. I never really did feel accepted here. It was like I was the guy who everyone in the group tolerated just because it was the right thing to do, but really wanted him gone. And I tried so hard to fit in, too. :/ Thx Gustaran, the only guy who ever did anything good for me.
This post kind of sums up the problem Jowy. You take things too personally, draw conclusions that simply aren't true and then make a kneejerk reaction. I doubt anyone here has a problem with you personally, or wants to see you gone, so take a deep breath, count to 10, identify the problem, and work to correct it.
If you go back a few pages and read your posts up to here, most of them are about you losing solo queues without much for us to comment on. And I dare say it sounds like you are complaining. We sympathize with the randomness that are solo battles, but after 5 posts that are pretty much interchangeable, it does start to get on people's nerves. Nor are we particularly interested in a report for every game you play. You could make a blog out of it maybe, but it's not something that belongs in a thread discussing League of Legends.
Whatever you decide to do, I wish you the best in your endeavors.
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October 17th, 2011, 10:04
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Speaking of LoL: Am I remembering wrongly or wasn't there an easy way to switch clients between NA and Europe? If there is, can somebody hint me to where to find the specifics?
October 17th, 2011, 10:21
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They redesigned the client a couple of months ago so there's a 'switch region' button now before you log in. Makes things a lot easier if you want to play on both.
October 17th, 2011, 10:43
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antisocialmunky Wrote:Except Youtube subs of course. Yes because Jowy's incessant selectional-memory whiny posts, and Sullla's 133 instructional Youtube commentaries are exactly the same. Gimme a break.
Anyways, I don't have anything against Jowy personally. SleepingMoogle has pretty much summed up my thoughts on the matter 100%. Playing MP games solo on the internet sucks. We all get that. That's why, in the several years I played Civ4 competitively, I always tried to play on a team with my friends (Mookie, Metallian, Diva, Sunrise, Knupp, etc.), to the point that other people always complained that we were stacking the teams. It wasn't about that; it was about playing with people I enjoyed playing with, who would communicate with me on voice comms, and made my several hours of game time....enjoyable. Imagine the concept. It's the same reason that I usually duo queue--not because I'm more likely to win, though I probably am, but because it's just simply more fun.
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October 17th, 2011, 10:44
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Mardoc Wrote:I appreciate the offer, but I'm going to hold off for a few weeks until I'm confident in the basics, like remembering I have summoner spells, and whether it's a right click or a left click that actually makes a skill go off. There's not a whole lot you can advise me on while I'm still learning the interface.
Once I know how to walk, then you can teach me to run I'm sure there are many of us who wouldn't mind making an alternate account to play a few games with you at your level.
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October 17th, 2011, 10:58
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Mardoc Wrote:So after watching 133 Sullla videos, I finally decided to jump in. What would you recommend for a new player who has a good grasp on the strategies, but not the reflexes to execute them? Aside from the obvious, practice practice practice .
My champ advice is to buy the 450IP champs. It'll let you play custom games sooner and almost all of them are viable.
Unlike many others here I strongly recommend you buy tier 1 runes as you level. Remember, tier 1 runes are like 50% as good as tier 3 for like 1% the cost. Just buy health quints, MR blues, health yellows, and armor pen reds and you'll be pretty darn covered. Magic pen reds would be the next choice IMHO.
I also fall into the "play against humans but try a champ vs bots first" camp. I think it's worth the one game to learn how your skills work. Read a few guides too - don't assume they're all gospel, but get a sense if a certain skill order is universally taken as some champs have one clearly superior or inferior skill.
Oh, and you should still play with us. Maybe no exclusively since most games will have people way above your level, but it will be valuable especially if you have voice chat capabilities.
@Jowy - Speaker and Moogle have explained things fine, but please don't confuse "we're not big on this post" for "OMG we hate you please leave the community." I'm not going to get sucked in to a dramatic "will he stay or go" thing, but in general everyone is welcome here but all of us are held accountable that we're not making posts that are starting to have a negative contribution.
Anyways, that's while I proposed tracking all of your games, not just the ones that went poorly. You can make a single post and edit it and people can follow along if they'd like. I think it will be really illistrative - if every single game has like jungle Soraka people will probably sympathize, but if half the games go well and half poorly people might remind you that's more or less what you'd expect at your proper elo.
October 17th, 2011, 11:12
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Mardoc I have zero problem running games with you no matter your level or experience. If we don't feel like playing against lvl 25ish teams I have a low level account I can log into (it's actually what I'm doing with my roommate at University). In my experience I often don't know something I'm doing is wrong until someone remarks about it even for elementary stuff. we can run a lane like caitlyn/soraka and it'll be pretty hard for us to lose the lane.
The one other thing I don't think anyone has mentioned is livestreams on own3d.com. While not as applied, some streamers such as Roku and TreeEskimo can be helpful, though sometimes it's something where you have to go "what would I do here" and then watch what they do and figure why they did it. Recently eski and Roku haven't been commenting like they used to (treeEskimo is playing professionally and Roku is getting married I think?). In some of their older videos they give a large amount of helpful info.
Sullla have you thought about doing a LoL 101 series? You did a couple shorts, but those were more mid level concepts if I remember right. If you made something people could link friends to it'd probably be popular.
October 17th, 2011, 11:16
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One of the better reasons to to play against Bots once a day is if you win the game, which you should do, you'll get the 150 IP for the first win of the day. If you play constantly against humans, then you might not get the IP if you lose all your games. It might not seem like much, but if you play that 1 bot game for an entire month you'll save up a good 9000 IP in 2 months that you can then spend on tier 3 runes at level 20, and buy the occasional champ etc.
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October 17th, 2011, 11:17
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So to sum up: Ryze in particular could be a good one to learn on, as could the tanky dps champs (basically anyone you would put in a top lane). And support, if I'm among competent people.
And you don't think I have much to learn from playing against bots, except the real basics of what the skills are, shop looks like, and so on.
In that case - I probably will be asking for partners sooner rather than later, mostly because of this:
Speaker Wrote:Playing MP games solo on the internet sucks. We all get that. ... It wasn't about that; it was about playing with people I enjoyed playing with, who would communicate with me on voice comms, and made my several hours of game time....enjoyable.
But I'll still wait on that until I've got a handle on the interface and can at least describe a few champions I own without having a cheat sheet in front of me. I'll check back in here from time to time, and let you know when I'm ready.
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