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Diplomacy Master Thread- Helping Your Opponents Beat Themselves

Yeah I was thinking something along the lines of what Bigger said.
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I don't think the clarification of the 10-turn cool down is necessary with CivPlayers. If anything, this opens the door for them to say, "No, actually we didn't intend for the cool down to apply." It is pretty obvious that it does apply currently.
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Geographic stuff for CivPlayers:

The Spanish are located east of CFC (who are located east of us), and west of CivFr. Going eastwards there are circa 38 tiles from Xochicalco to their borders.

WPC are located northeast of our borders, and east of the Germans. Their closest city to you is 19 tiles northeast of Xochicalco, but with two small inland seas in the way (including the one you know about).
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FYI:

Apolyton Wrote:Greetings,

We have discussedthe possible map trade and decided that it is not in our interest right now. We Already have a good coverage of the world and don't want to give away our maps further for now. Hope you understand.

Regards,

MZ.
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Another team signaling reluctance to make even trades with the runaway civ. Hard to argue their position. Let's scout them out with spies.
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We don't need spies. We have a scout moving into Apolyton's territory this turn. Unless they kick us out, we'll quietly reveal all their cities. shhh

scooter, your proposed diplo messages look fine to me. If anyone has further comments on them, speak today so that we can send the messages out tonight.
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I would send something quick back to apolyton saying "OK, we understand. Thanks for letting us know." They are being courteous with us so we should do the same back.
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Bunch of messages sent out, so here's the dump with all 4 of them.


Sent to GWT:

RB Wrote:GWT,

Great! Looking forward to the marble hookup. We went ahead and sent the spices now too. If you don't mind, let us know whenever you're going to lend the worker for the gem chop. We will move the worker carefully of course, but we'll be counting on you to protect the worker from barbs while it's chopping since it's your worker.

Thanks,
scooter - Team RB

Sent to WPC:

RB Wrote:Tatu,

Just wanted to give you guys a heads up. We cut a deal with the German team in order to get marble - we're trading them spices for marble, and we're giving them a 10T gems loan while we wait for them to hook the marble. We had a slight miscommunication with our turn player, so we actually gave them the spices prematurely. We wanted to get you in the loop here so you understood why it may appear that we are "gifting" them happy resources right now. We're not just giving them happy, they will be giving us marble in return soon.

What the German team doesn't realize is we will use this marble to get some really important stuff completed (like Heroic Epic) so we can build strong units really fast for the upcoming war smile. Hope you don't mind, it'll help our common war in the long run. Let me know if you need anything from me!

Thanks,
scooter - Team RB

Sent to CivPlayers:

RB Wrote:Decebal,

Great, thanks! Just to clarify, you're still good with maintaining the rolling 10T cooldown right? Just thought I would check smile.

I'd be happy to fill in some geographical gaps for you. The Spanish team is located east of CFC (who is located east of us) and west of CivFr. Going eastwards there are about 38 tiles from Xochicalco to their borders. WPC is located northeast of our borders, and east of the Germans. Their closest city to you is 19 tiles northeast of Xochicalco, but they have two small inland seas in the way (including the one you know about).

Let me know if there's anything else specifically you want to know about any civ locations - I'm not totally sure what you know and don't know.

Thanks,
scooter - Team RB

Sent to Apolyton:

RB Wrote:MZ,

No problem, we definitely understand. Thanks for considering, and of course let us know if you change your mind smile.

Thanks,
scooter - Team RB
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Just thinking ahead:

If during the time we are receiving marble the Germans ask for an NAP extension beyond T150, what do we do?

If we say no, they might well cut off the marble.
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Stall.
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