Do they know that we know that they know that we know that they know ...?

[zakalwe]

If they triple whipped something, then maybe that's an aqueduct. With HG to follow on the next turn.

[pling]

TEAM triple whipped a city we can't see (probably their second city, but that's a guess) from 6->3, and grew either 3->4 or 4->5.

Menagerie grew a city from 4->5 and one we can't see from either 4->5 or 3->4. They also got another 4k of power - putting this down as a Chariot as I can see one in their capital & I didn't have them down as having any of those before

Gillette grew a size 3 city to size 4 and that leaves 16 points. This isn't a world wonder, I didn't see anything in the event log. They also got 14k of power, so I'm putting them down as building their Moai Statues (10k power) and also building a Chariot.

Pirates whipped their cap 5->4 and grew another city 4->5, and one 5->6. They are also very blasé about having our chariot turn up on their borders, I kinda expected a "hi guys, you're nice people, right?" message from them this turn given we have no deals at all

[pling]

Great Library is ours .

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TEAM: Grew 6->7, 4->5, 2->3, 1->2.

M3: Grew 6->7 plus planted a new city.

Gillette: Grew 12->13, 3->4. Got another 7k soldiers & I've put that down as a Barracks & a Chariot. (Complete guess)

Pirates: whipped 6->3 and grew 1->2.

There's 3k of power to share out between TEAM & M3, and 8 new land tiles shared between TEAM/M3/Gillette.

[pling]

M3 have the 3k of power, put that down as a barracks. Also noted they're in Org Rel, don't think I'd noted that before.

[pling]

TEAM: probably grew two size 5 cities to size 6 (none of them visible to us). May have up to 4k power increase in units.

Menagerie: probably grew a size 5 city to size 6. May have up to 4k power in units.

(Other option for those two's city growths is 7->8, 5->6, 2->3)

Gillette: Triple whipped a city 7->4, double whipped a city 4->2 which re-grew to 3. Also grew a size 4 city to size 5. I think the other 12 points is a classical era tech, putting this down as Calendar (a guess). I also think they built a Warrior.

The other possibility is that they grew 5 pop, didn't get a tech, didn't build a Warrior, but I don't think the numbers work out for that.

Pirates: Grew a size 4 city to size 5. As far as I know that's all their Axes sitting there on those two workers, plus their only spear.

4 new land tiles, for someone(s).

[pling]

TEAM: Nothing visible, except possibly 2 extra land tiles.

Menagerie: Net change of -1 for pop, but it's not that simple (can't lose 41k with a single whip). They got 4k of units last turn, put that down as a spear.

Gillette: I think I've lost track of their pop now, not having CivStats means I only know they ended up with a net loss of 2, but you can't lose 179k in with just 2 whips so I assume they whipped more & grew a bit. It's them with Currency, I assume that's the tech I mis-assigned as Calendar last turn.

Pirates: Revolted into HR this turn. I think they got a tech this turn, which would have to be Monarchy but surely that would only let them revolt into HR next turn Can they revolt after ending turn? Certainly they don't seem to've got enough points last turn to have got a tech then. They also grew (at least) 3 pop - probably 5->6, 3->4 & 2->3).

[pling]

This is beginning to fall to pieces

TEAM: Whipped a city 3->2 (I can see this city so know this happened), double whipped something else. Might've grown back 6 pop, might've grown back 3 pop plus got a classical era tech. I'm guessing that it's a tech, coz rival top GNP has dropped significantly. I put this down as Calendar in the spreadsheet for now but need to check where the power is.

Menagerie: Grew two cities, neither visible to us.

Gillette: grew 13->14, 4->5, 4->5. plako corrected my earlier assignment of them having teched Iron Working to making it Maths, and so they must have an extra Chariot (probably, 4k of units) over what I thought.

Pirates: grew 5->6.

There's also 10k of power split between TEAM & Menagerie that I need to check the graphs for.

[zakalwe]

I'm impressed with how large Gillette have grown their capital. It will be a while before we can catch up to that.

[plako]

Mackoti's signature probably showing there. He values strong Bureau capital very high. Our capital can't compete without Hereditary rule or finding some other means to generate lots of Happiness, but we've other things keeping us competitive at this point.

I guess TEAM didn't finish HG yet? We probably should have tried after all. At least to generate some failure gold.

[pling]

Mackoti's signature probably showing there. He values strong Bureau capital very high. Our capital can't compete without Hereditary rule or finding some other means to generate lots of Happiness, but we've other things keeping us competitive at this point.

Yeah, they're in HR at the moment, and have a ton of Warriors as far as I can tell.

I guess TEAM didn't finish HG yet? We probably should have tried after all. At least to generate some failure gold.

There's another 22 point rise this turn (T101) - 4pop+ancient era tech, or wonder+ancient era tech. I haven't had a chance to log in & see if that's a wonder. And yeah, I think we let paranoia run away with us