Cheater Hater's PBEM58 Thread (with a surprise post lead!)

[Old Harry]

Simming is the best way to get an answer to the grenadier/cat question.

I presume he can take your northern city before you can reinforce it. What would you do if you were him at that point?

[Cheater Hater]

T131:
Pictures here, I did end up abandoning Mythril Mines as expected (except for the last Praet I whipped ), and my plan is to strike AT's eastern stack next turn--as far as I can tell (since it goes off the top of my screen ), it only has a single rifle in it (since F5 says I can see 12 rifles, and the northern stack has 11), and the rest are either two-movers or siege. Similarly, the northern stack only has a single Curaissier, and is otherwise just one-movers (and thus it's really far away from cities other than Mythril Mines--an unintended benefit of my cities far apart ). Actually, that eastern stack appears to be relatively small (since it doesn't have that many units stacked up--compare it to the stack in Norende for instance), so I think I'll be able to take it down in one attack, while being able either to rebuild relatively quickly to take out the northern stack (which will probably require a lot more cats), or if enough of my units survive, I can go raze Kafkaesque (will it let me raze it since I owned before?).

I wonder what AT's thinking right now? He obviously knows I have Military Science since he saw the Grenadier I whipped in Mythril Mines (and responded by promoting a couple rifles to Pinch), but I don't know if he expected me to able to push to it right when he declared? He also doesn't know about my huge stack in Norende thanks to all those hills in the way--I've had a power increase, but my whipping/loss of two cities has kinda disguised it.

One more thing before I forget--I have a Great General sitting in Caldisla I haven't used yet--what's the best use for it (Medic/super strong unit/Military Academy)?

[Old Harry]

Are you going to need healing, to get an opportunity to hit back or faster unit builds more?

[Cheater Hater]

T132:
Pictures here--the eastern stack has retreated into Kafkaesque, while the northern stack did take Mythril Mines as expected. I did use the Great General for a Military Academy in Caldisla, since that's the one place I'm still not really whipping at the moment, and his eastern stack retreating gives me an opportunity to build/whip some more units.

[Cheater Hater]

T134:
Pictures here
It appears AT has retreated for the time being--he has no units in my territory, retreating all his units to Mythril Mines and Kafkaesque. I moved my units from Rome 1E, so they're in range of Mythril Mines--I'm thinking I need to attack there next turn, since it's the last turn before it gets out of revolt (aka starts getting defenses again)--we'll see how he moves his units (and if Twinkletoes and/or eastway finally figure out they should be helping me attack AT, since he's going to win this game if they don't).

[Cheater Hater]

T135
Pictures here
AT's on the move--he can strike Norende with his 2-movers next turn, he has a machine gun in his northern stack, and I couldn't hit the eastern stack with the stack I moved 1W of Rome.

I feel like I really should hand it off to someone else--I know playing a big war turn is the best way to learn what to do in war, but I have a feeling I'm doomed regardless--I can probably defend one stack, but likely not both.

[Old Harry]

I can't tell which stack is which - you can turn the green cursor on with alt+S - but it looks like you didn't show us what you have in your capital? Also have you got engineering yet?

With a few more catapults and three move roads I think you'd have a decent chance here... are those six the only cats you have?

What do you think he is going to do next turn? Advance both, just one or neither stack?

[Cheater Hater]

Don't worry, I have Engineering--I'm not that far behind

I think I have the one cat coming from the capital, then maybe one more in the east somewhere, but yeah, I don't have that many catapults--and most of them are probably going to be flanked and killed if AT decides to attack Norende with his 2-movers.

If I didn't show something, it means there isn't much to show--the capital just has a bunch of backwards units, enough so it isn't unhappy :/

There's no reason for him not to advance both--I don't have the forces to kill both of them. The real question is if he decides to attack Norende with his 2-movers--he has a bunch of them, though I don't think even his Cavs get odds on my Grenadiers with +60% culture defense.

[Old Harry]

You can't flank through walls...

If he does move both forward you can kill one and then hope your stack is in good enough shape to heal and hit the other. If you just wait for him to decide where the fight is then his collateral wins.

Edit: If he moves forward what will your attack order be?

That courthouse should be a catapult too.

[Cheater Hater]

That would require Norende (or any of my cities) to have walls--and since Cavalry and Curraissier are Gunpowder units, they go through walls, right?

What I've been relying on is that the majority of his northern stack is 1-movers, so it'll take a couple turns to get to Caldisla.

What do you mean "what is my attack order"? I'm not even thinking about attacking the northern stack at this point--I bet I could throw all my units at it and not make any progress what so ever.