[SPOILERS!] Pericles of Babylon. Kyan, Twinkletoes, Whosit.

[Whosit]

Just do it all on one turn but in three goes. They gift Myst & Hunt 1st, then they gift us Med and Arch, then they trade us priest for alphabet - we just arrange to be online at same time and run it through.

So does trading work differently than in Singleplayer? In SP, if you get Myst from someone, you cannot trade for Meditation (or Polytheism) until the next turn, for example. Likewise, if you trade Writing to someone, you can't trade them Math until the next turn.

[Twinkletoes89]

You may be right, I was just guessing, being so inexperienced in MP, if it isn't the case, then we just spread the trades/gifts over 3 turns

[plako]

So does trading work differently than in Singleplayer? In SP, if you get Myst from someone, you cannot trade for Meditation (or Polytheism) until the next turn, for example. Likewise, if you trade Writing to someone, you can't trade them Math until the next turn.

MP and SP tech trades work similarily i.e. you can't trade Mystisicm and Meditation at the same turn.

[Twinkletoes89]

Many thanks plako, to thank you we shall name warrior 4 in your honour

[Whosit]

Many thanks plako, to thank you we shall name warrior 4 in your honour

And use it to destroy Broker33!

Just kidding.

[Kyan]

Ok, our initial hunch from turn 1 - that the eastward land looked juicy- turned out to be spot on.



That is some insanely good land. It should also be about halfway between us and someone else - similar distance as Exodus. Riverside grassland pigs AND wet rice? That site is SO much better than anything else we've found it's not even funny.

You know what this means right? It's plotting time...

2 workers due in 5 turns. Chop is done in 3. 2nd worker currently queued up in Exodus for after the first using the chop.

Random Idea #1

1. We leave the chop 1 turn short, and instead move the worker one SE, mine and road up the copper.

2. The two workers which will then be around Exodus finish off the road on the marked tiles.

3. Genesis can plough a few turns into a barracks whilst the new worker is pre-chopping the nearby grass riverside forests (there are 2).

4. Secure NAP with Mali (this should probly be step 1 but can't be bothered to edit )

5. We chop out and build a mini-army from Genesis/Exodus. Even 3 axemen, 1 spearman should be enough.

6. We scout a tiny bit further east using warrior but then hold position for fogbusting.

7. Try and avoid contact if possible. If we make contact, they'll be able to spend EP on us and therefore get their hands on our power charts.

8. Our new army moves in and prioritises any military resource. Chances are they have either copper or horses but i doubt they'll have more than warriors at this point. We have been number 1 or 2 in power all game long so far. Disconnect that resource and our axemen will utterly destroy them.

9. Worst case scenario we take out their second city (RAZING. We won't be able to afford the maintenance. Obviously if the location is insanely good we can re-think this stage potentially). We can then trap them in their capital and eventually take them out. By this point they will be long gone.

10. We then have superb land to peacefully expand into putting us in a strong position long-term.

Pro's :

Cash to fund research from razing the cities
Space! Space will be at a premium with this set-up. This gives us a big advantage.
Our power rating will be a massive deterrant for anyone thinking of picking on the 'newbies'. We mentioned an aggresive mind-set from the start, this could be a good chance for it.
Research should be un-affected.

Con's:

Potential diplo hit. I actually think it will make us more respected. i.e. people will think twice before trying to walk over us.
Slows down settlement of city 3.
removes one potential customer for alphabet.

We've got time to think about this but i think moving the worker to mine copper before chop would be a wise move even if we don't go ahead with:

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PLAN WEEDKILLER

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[Kyan]

Emperor Capac,

We are delighted to have met your brave warriors this turn. You will be delighted to hear our soldiers shared a hearty meal and camp fire and swapped stories of life at home.

The Malinese culture is certainly one that intrigues us. So much so, we would like to offer an official hand of friendship your way. Would you be interested in anything along the lines of a non-aggression pact? Such a deal would obviously be subject to not abusing the land between us, but based on past communications we are sure this wouldn't be an issue. You can rest assured there are no plans to found a new city anywhere near your civilization.

If such a deal was of interest to you then we would be very happy to offer you the use of the new metal we have found. We have still seen no sign of these creatures you dub horses though so perhaps they are fairly sparse? Some future trading along these lines would be welcomed.

Technology wise, we are tentatively looking at getting alphabet fairly early and wondered if you would be interested in trading such a technology? There are a few ideas we've had but it largely depends on where you are heading in terms of your research. Writing is our first step towards this goal and we would be happy to establish trade routes with yourself for some more commerce and further strengthening ties between us.

Your Friends,

Kyan
Kysit's Periwinkles

[Twinkletoes89]

Operation Weedkiller looks OK, but we must leave wiggle room for a diplomatic approach if they turn out to be a fearsome neighbour.

In terms of the letter, I like Paragraphs 1,3 & 4, and I would put those together in this order 1,4,3 and then put this at the bottom regarding a NAP:

"Alongside these proposals, we would like to offer a hand of friendship to show our commitment to a strong and mutually beneficial partnership between our proud nations. As such, we are open to discussions on a Non-Aggression Pact, the terms of which are open to suggestions and debate."

[Kyan]

Emperor Capac,

We are delighted to have met your brave warriors this turn. You will be delighted to hear our soldiers shared a hearty meal and camp fire and swapped stories of life at home.

Technology wise, we are tentatively looking at getting alphabet fairly early and wondered if you would be interested in trading such a technology? There are a few ideas we've had but it largely depends on where you are heading in terms of your research. Writing is our first step towards this goal and we would be happy to establish trade routes with yourself for some more commerce and further strengthening ties between us.

If such a deal was of interest to you then we would be very happy to offer you the use of the new metal we have found. We have still seen no sign of these creatures you dub horses though so perhaps they are fairly sparse? Some future trading along these lines would be welcomed.

Alongside these proposals, we would like to offer a hand of friendship to show our commitment to a strong and mutually beneficial partnership between our proud nations. As such, we are open to discussions on a Non-Aggression Pact, the terms of which are open to suggestions and debate.


Your Friends,

Kyan
Kysit's Periwinkles

[Twinkletoes89]

That works for me! Teamwork eh? No doubt you'll say Whosit came up with it