New FFH2 PBEM?

[Kragroth]

North,

You missed your self-professed play window. The turn was sent after 11 pm central. You missed sending it when we needed it which was right at the start of your window so Tasunke had a chance to play and also send it In time.

I'm grateful that Old Lion played the save and I got to play 2 saves today, but you still missed the target. Strike 1 6 days left to see.

We can consider a shared save scheme where either Old Lion or you play the save whenever one is available.

[Northstar1989]

North,

You missed your self-professed play window.

By... 9 minutes. That's not missing it at all- it takes me time to load the save into an e-mail and send that, you know. Would you prefer if I clarified- I will typically finish *playing* by 11, and have the save out within the next 10 minutes?

Or would you rather I just extend the back-end of my play window to 11:15? Some of you guys have 2-hour long play windows already...

The turn was sent after 11 pm central. You missed sending it when we needed it which was right at the start of your window so Tasunke had a chance to play and also send it In time.

Unfortunately, that's not possible. I'll be walking in the door right at 9:30 most days. My play-window is based on the most optimistic possible situation- I get off work early, hit no delays getting home, and don't have any wet or dirty clothes to take off when I get there. Even then, I will usually be cooking and eating my dinner at the same time as playing, because I have to go to sleep soon after I'm done (to be up at 6:50 AM the next day I need to be in bed by midnight at the latest- speaking of which...) Don't expect to actually *get* the save before 10:30 if my play-window lasts until 11- and usually it will be between 11:00 and 11:15 that I actually get the e-mail out.

I'm grateful that Old Lion played the save and I got to play 2 saves today, but you still missed the target. Strike 1 6 days left to see.

No, I didn't miss the "target." Once again, nobody appointed you scorekeeper or umpire here, Kragroth. I will be consistently sending the saves between 11:00 and 11:15. If you receive them AFTER about 11:15, you can consider the save late.

We can consider a shared save scheme where either Old Lion or you play the save whenever one is available.

Didn't I just say something like that? I'll be trying to give directions to Old Lion so he can play the save earlier in the day, where possible (which is also part of why I don't send until 11-11:15, as I need to plan my next turn- and leave signs for Old Lion in-game: something I can't do after I hit "End Turn"). I won't accept anyone else telling him when to play the save for me, unless I have been absent for at least a day (as in, I missed the turn the previous night) and not gotten a hold of him by the morning...


Regards,
Northstar

[Old_Lion]

North,

You missed your self-professed play window. The turn was sent after 11 pm central. You missed sending it when we needed it which was right at the start of your window so Tasunke had a chance to play and also send it In time.

I'm grateful that Old Lion played the save and I got to play 2 saves today, but you still missed the target. Strike 1 6 days left to see.

We can consider a shared save scheme where either Old Lion or you play the save whenever one is available.

I have to say I do not always find Northstar drama always justified, but here Kragoroth you're a little bit beyond the line yourself :

You played 2 turns today, and Northstar was basically in-time.
If you're not satisfied with that, you'll never will.

Make a little bit of soulsearching and admit this was a rather satisfying day for everybody gamewise.

Didn't I just say something like that? I'll be trying to give directions to Old Lion so he can play the save earlier in the day, where possible (which is also part of why I don't send until 11-11:15, as I need to plan my next turn- and leave signs for Old Lion in-game: something I can't do after I hit "End Turn"). I won't accept anyone else telling him when to play the save for me, unless I have been absent for at least a day (as in, I missed the turn the previous night) and not gotten a hold of him by the morning...

Not sure what you mean here :
can I play next turn asap or do I have to wait until after your time window as you asked me earlier ?
I agreed to wait after your time windows but implicitely what you say here and in the thread suggest you expect me to play. I have very detailles instructions.

I wil not play unless exlicitely told to but If you can remove the ambiguity before please do.
Consider the fact that 2 turns a day as often as possible will help making everybody happy

[Kragroth]

Only in Bizarro World is someone's play window of 9:30 to 11:00 not actually start at 9:30.

Only in Bizarro World is 11:09 pm before 11:00 pm.

Guys, it's well past the time to think with your heart first.  It's been more than time to think with your head first.

North wants to be the primary turn player; he wants everyone to wait until he can play.  Per the conditions Ellimist set out and we agreed to, North can only be the primary player if he can play within a play window that finishes before Tasunke gets the turn so that Tasunke can in turn send it to Saruman and in turn send it to Ellimist all within a short time period.

Let's be clear here: It is not acceptable to ask Tasunke to stay up late to play a turn that he won't get nor is it acceptable to ask Saruman or Ellimist to do so likewise.  If North cannot get to his turns within the NEEDED play window, then we need to abandon this "primary player" angle and have Northstar and Old Lion play turns first come first serve or have Northstar removed if he won't agree to that.

Changing jobs, wanting to eat dinner first, etc. are all irrelevant to what the game needs: playing and sending the turn before Tasunke's window ends.  Pending the completion of this week trial, we'll evaluate.  But yes, North failed yesterday. We've already discussed this. North has to get the save to Tasunke before 11 pm with enough time for Tasunke to play and send it off myself.

And North, if you're going to be late for whatever reason, Text our emails that you'll be late!

[Tasunke]

Well, if north plays at 11/12 I can usually take the save at 4-6 if I know it's going to happen. But I'm not sure when others can play the save from there. Is 2 turns a day (with old lion playing the morning save and north star playing the night save) an unrealistic expextation? Then if one of them misses it, at least one turn may go full circuit.

My official play window is 8-10:30 at best, but before DLS it was 7-9:30

[Kragroth]

Well, if north plays at 11/12 I can usually take the save at 4-6 if I know it's going to happen. But I'm not sure when others can play the save from there. Is 2 turns a day (with old lion playing the morning save and north star playing the night save) an unrealistic expextation? Then if one of them misses it, at least one turn may go full circuit.

My official play window is 8-10:30 at best, but before DLS it was 7-9:30

Right now somehow Tasunke, Saruman, and Ellimist are playing turns outside of their turn window In the middle of the day. That's probably not sustainable.

You need to define it Tasunke. Define how late you can be expected to wait consistently. North has to send it within a reasonable time for you to get to it

[Tasunke]

I already said I'm not typically awake past 10:30 pm. And then I wake up 4-6 am

Obviously him sending the save at 11:15/11:30 isn't very sustainable for me. Unless I just become an am player.

[Kragroth]

I already said I'm not typically awake past 10:30 pm. And then I wake up 4-6 am

Obviously him sending the save at 11:15/11:30 isn't very sustainable for me. Unless I just become an am player.

So how late are you willing to wait at night? 10:15? 10:00?

[Ellimist]

Right now somehow Tasunke, Saruman, and Ellimist are playing turns outside of their turn window In the middle of the day. That's probably not sustainable.

I'm off today.

In general, I will take whatever opportunities I have to keep the turn flowing. My posted timeslot is the time of day that I can guarantee.

[Northstar1989]

North,

You missed your self-professed play window. The turn was sent after 11 pm central. You missed sending it when we needed it which was right at the start of your window so Tasunke had a chance to play and also send it In time.

I'm grateful that Old Lion played the save and I got to play 2 saves today, but you still missed the target. Strike 1 6 days left to see.

We can consider a shared save scheme where either Old Lion or you play the save whenever one is available.

I have to say I do not always find Northstar drama always justified, but here Kragoroth you're a little bit beyond the line yourself :

You played 2 turns today, and Northstar was basically in-time.
If you're not satisfied with that, you'll never will.

Make a little bit of soulsearching and admit this was a rather satisfying day for everybody gamewise.

Thank you Old Lion.

Didn't I just say something like that? I'll be trying to give directions to Old Lion so he can play the save earlier in the day, where possible (which is also part of why I don't send until 11-11:15, as I need to plan my next turn- and leave signs for Old Lion in-game: something I can't do after I hit "End Turn"). I won't accept anyone else telling him when to play the save for me, unless I have been absent for at least a day (as in, I missed the turn the previous night) and not gotten a hold of him by the morning...

Not sure what you mean here :
can I play next turn asap or do I have to wait until after your time window as you asked me earlier ?
I agreed to wait after your time windows but implicitely what you say here and in the thread suggest you expect me to play. I have very detailles instructions.

I wil not play unless exlicitely told to but If you can remove the ambiguity before please do.
Consider the fact that 2 turns a day as often as possible will help making everybody happy

Sorry for the ambiguity.

Yeah, I gave you very clear instructions for today, so I would have been happy with you playing a turn this afternoon. I have been home sick one last day though (I'm feeling mostly better, but I'm not taking any chances) so I'm about to play the save myself.

In general, if I left you clear+detailed instructions, you're good to play! If you come up against a situation where you're not sure what to do (this includes random events- which will generate exactly the same if I load up the save later) and there isn't an obvious choice, leave it to me to make the decision that evening. If we stick with this pattern, I expect we can churn out about 1.8 saves/day.


Regards,
Northstar