[SPOILERS!] Pericles of Babylon. Kyan, Twinkletoes, Whosit.

[Twinkletoes89]

Just a thought I had in convo with Kyan.

I think the jungled silver is a deliberate ploy to encourage some to beeline Iron Working to encourage early military focus - whittle down the numbers.

Monarchy's Happiness bonus is more useful imho

[Twinkletoes89]

Me and Kyan had in-depth discussion over MSN and we have decided to move the settler and end turn 1

TURNS SINCE LAST DEATH = 1 and counting

[Whosit]

TURNS SINCE LAST DEATH = 1 and counting

Heh heh.

Well, looks like the decision was made, but aside from the loss of fresh water, not a big deal. Probably the best decision, but I'll bet you both 10 gold that there's corn or something to the east. :neenernee

[Kyan]

Ok. turn 1- which i shall dub 'headaches are us' is beyond us.

Settler moved NW also. We considered SW. BUT, we'd be trading 6 forests and a lot of riverside tiles for the unknown. We decided not to gamble.

Turn 2 - A New Hope (Gogo Whosit)

-Settler founds 'Genesis' on plains hill. (the one originally to NW of starting position)

-Warrior moves EITHER N or NE. With the intention of moving to the plains hill up there on turn 3. Irrelevant which.

-Begin work on a worker

-Start research on animal husbandry.


Sound good?

[Twinkletoes89]

Ok. turn 1- which i shall dub 'headaches are us' is beyond us.

Settler moved NW also. We considered SW. BUT, we'd be trading 6 forests and a lot of riverside tiles for the unknown. We decided not to gamble.

Turn 2 - A New Hope (Gogo Whosit)

-Settler founds 'Genesis' on plains hill. (the one originally to NW of starting position)

-Warrior moves EITHER N or NE. With the intention of moving to the plains hill up there on turn 3. Irrelevant which.

-Begin work on a worker

-Start research on animal husbandry.


Sound good?

Agreed

Oh and in other news Mali - is the first to settle in PB3. If they had an identical start then they probably saw the mass of hills and silver and with their starting techs of Mining/Wheel so they can work the hills as soon as they have a worker

[Whosit]

I agree, though not sure where to move the Warrior best. I'd still like to scout out to the east to see what's there (better start planning city #2!), but maybe NW and follow the river? Our borders pop in 3 turns, which is almost like scouting.

Worker first = good.
Animal Husbandry = good.

Let's tech Mining 2nd. I did some quick calculations and came up with this:

City Center: 2F/2H/1C
Pasture sheep: 4F/1H/2C
Farmed Grassland (north of Sheep): 3F/0H/1C
Mined Plains hills, riverside: 0F/4H/1C each
Mined Grassland Hill: 1F/3H/0C

If I did the math right, we have food for all five tiles (happy cap), being stagnant, pulling in 14 hammers, and 6 commerce (14 counting Palace).

Bronze Working after Mining for chops? Or should we divert to Hunting/Archery to get to work on Bowmen?

[Kyan]

It's times like these that i fancy you just a little bit.

Nice work. I wholeheartedly agree with your tile allocation. I do like bronze working early. Me and TT are looking at that forested hill as there's an awful lot of trees up there- maybe a good location for exodus?

then wheeling around south east to see the fertile land there?

i'm happy with an order like you suggested: AH, mining, BW, hunting, archery.

That way we can expand safely using cheap bowmen to protect us



EDIT: Replaced 'whosit' with 'TT'. I clearly can't even tell my own team-mates apart!

[Twinkletoes89]

In terms of scouting, my aim is to go up to the 3 hammer hill and then go clockwise from there, scouting the east and round from there.

I would be tempted to head for Mining>Hunting>Archery for securer defences and then bronze working.

In other news, Krill (Gandhi of Egypt) and -snip- have also settled on Turn 1

[Kyan]

that order works for me too.

Hmm, if starts are identical (which knowing sullla's maps i seriously doubt they are anyway), i'd be very surprised if anyone settled on spot.

Sure ok there might be more goodies in the fog- but these first turns are the most important and we can't settle on spot in the hope that sullla played nice.

[Kyan]

In other news, Krill (Gandhi of Egypt) and Morgan (Lizzie of France) have also settled on Turn 1

Ok, tried kicking Morgan but the AI immediately settled. So I reloaded to ManiaMuse's login, which I think was right before Morgan's.

EDIT: I hope it goes without saying that in reloads like this players should make sure to move EXACTLY the way they did the first time.

Sunrise > the man with twinkly toes.