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Sullla, just watched the video. I wasn't really going to post anything until you spoke about Gavagai's start, but I think you are wrong to go worker first and chop there. Chopping on normal speed only adds 5hpt whereas working the clam after work boat first gives 2fpt and the commerce; settling on the banana also helps growth. I think the Gavagai and Bacchus played it right so far...excluding the religion rush, though they may yet prove it was a better choice than BW first and then slave out a worker.
I also think you made a mistake on Mehmed, you compared him to Darius, stating that FIN is better than ORG...they are both ORG. And EXP/FIN was banned, anyway.
Carthage could have planted on the dyes as well, as opposed to the grass hill they started on for the extra commerce.
You also missed quite a bit when discussing Ba11s start. By planting on the grass hill he gets an additional 4 forests, not 2, and he is right that he gets the extra health though that health is irrelevant if he doesn't stay above size 4 before he gets a granary. But not being able to grow beyond size 2 without roading the deer and hooking the corn does make the start surprisingly weird to play out. All that food and no easy way to use it efficiently.
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Maybe I'm a bit weird like that, but I'm loving the England thread.
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I think the correct location to settle is the desert hill SW of the big red blob, actually. Because of the location of the English copper city it would invalidate most of the potential English city locations in the area.
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The hyper-defensive nature of that river bend though, understand why they want to try it. Best defensive river I've ever seen. Although I've ignored other strong river borders...
That lower desert hill also invalidates their planned western coastal city. CFCJF is a bit rigid, seems to make a dotmap and stick to it.
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Seriously, just settle that desert hill and the plains hill that blocks off the isthmus for a strong border, expand west and get Mids. Then wait and see what happens.
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I'm enjoying watching Kjn take over and completely re-steer BaII's game as a sub...
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Kurumi's thread is like a stream of consciousness disaster that every now and then seems to come back to Civ.
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(July 15th, 2013, 14:55)Boldly Going Nowhere Wrote: Kurumi's thread is like a stream of consciousness disaster that every now and then seems to come back to Civ.
It's like a Twitter feed... maybe someone should point out there's not a 140 character limit? 
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I will never understand why Jesterfool uses the dotmaps he does.
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Say what you like but Serdoa/Nobes is completely going to win because they have the magic combination of FIN and having a higher early development than anyone else. And they have that because they're easily the best players in the game.
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