Pitboss 18 Lurker Thread of Infinite Wisdom

[Commodore]

Raze is simplest

[NobleHelium]

Uhm is this a replay or Oxy never played the turn to begin with? I think you have to either keep the city or raze it.

[NobleHelium]

Okay I see, the "give it back" option is actually just from Jojo demanding the city in a trade which as you say is not legal. So really you have just the raze or keep options from the culture flip menu.

[NobleHelium]

But then he's allowed to accept the culture flip? Didn't you say last time that the city couldn't flip to begin with?

Well, if these are rhetorical questions and not actual questions, I feel obliged to respond to them as they're blatantly incorrect.

A culture flip is not a city gift. Did you choose to transfer the city to him? No. Therefore it is not a gift. Not to mention that city gifting is understood to mean offering or demanding the city using the trade screen, and having the other party accept.

Correction on this actually. I believe the no city gifting rule also means that you cannot conquer a city and liberate it for a third party.

[Commodore]

Commodore Sven
Heh
[post by retep in PB21 talking about how dead the forum feels]
Not just me noticing...
Tyrant Xenu
i was just reading htat
so...blow up 18 and release the repressed community activity?
it's been a ghost town in the threads i'm reading all day
Commodore Sven
Yeah
think we need it
Tyrant Xenu
has that been discussed in the lurker thread at all?
Commodore Sven
Not a lot
Tyrant Xenu
i don't want to stop playing the game, i'm still having fun with it, but i'd rather be in a different game if this one is stopping up too much interesting forum discussion elsewhere
Commodore Sven
It seems to be hurting RB
Tyrant Xenu
i was just looking at the pb21 forum, thread views are kinda terrible there

Basically...I think we're sucking oxygen out of the forum and this thing is killing the feedback mechanisms, all the chatty classes are locked out from one another...

[Bobchillingworth]

Surely you aren't seriously proposing lurkers force this game to end just so you have more material to read elsewhere? If you're desperate for entertainment, check out JoJo's inexplicable meltdown in this very forum, it's amazing .


I suspect 21 isn't getting a lot of love because:

A: It's still fairly early in the game and not much is happening.

B: Nobody is doing super-intensive Commodorian roleplaying, nor a Gaspar-styled bitch-and-wank fest.

C: It's using a mod that many people may not be familiar with, which makes the game more difficult to follow than usual.


Besides, my impression was that the problem with this game was that too few people were putting in much time or effort- killing it won't do much for forum engagement if the majority of players weren't particularly invested to begin with.


Nothing wrong with this game ending, but that decision should arise organically from the players. Lurkers should only step in if most of the participants make their desire to quit the game clear, but for whatever reason are hesitant to broach the topic on their own in the tech thread.

[Commodore]

Oh, not saying we should kill it...just saying it won't be tragic when the pace does kill it.

[Lord Parkin]

Turn 122

Now that he's secured 10 turns of peace with dazedroyalty, Furungy immediately turns around and takes a stab at The Black Sword again. Geez, remind me never to start next to this guy.

Cheater Hater razes an apparently lightly defended city of Whosit's via Galley.

AutomatedTeller recaptures his city from Yuri.

The Krill-dtay standoff continues.

[NobleHelium]

I'm not asking you shit and I'm tired of your "terse lurker" troll gimmick or whatever it is. Go post your intentionally misleading bullshit in someone else's thread.

Im to blame for misleading you as well... I think a lot of people will be surprised to see that this is possible when they see your thread. Sorry for the bad info.

Silver lining, this will be linked in other threads in the future for culture questions.

There was nothing misleading about what we said. We both said that the city on the other continent cannot generate culture on the iron. Which is completely true and remains true. We didn't say that it couldn't generate culture on the tile next to the iron, and we certainly didn't say that a city planted there would not be able to flip. And then he got a revolt in the city, which was a warning that it could flip. As it was intended by the game designers. And I specifically told him after that that the city was vulnerable to culture from the other continent, to which he said he was confused. Apparently after saying that he was confused by my statements, he went on to assume that his interpretation was correct, despite even receiving evidence in-game to the contrary.

But whatever, let him keep thinking that he was somehow bamboozled into making one of the most laughable mistakes ever. This is probably the second culture flip ever on RB, and it is trivially easy to prevent in a situation like this, when he's not in a real war or anything. All he had to do was stuff a few more units into the city.

Oh and one other thing while we're talking about tile culture - it would be stupid for Oxy to gift the city back even if it were allowed. He would give up all tile culture in the inner ring of the city, which means he would lose control over the clam.

[Ceiliazul]

I flipped a catwalk city in 25, I'm sure there have been a few. However, I definitely did NOT think that city could flip. When the revolt happened it became obvious, but I won't claim I knew all along.