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#41 · May 12th, 2011, 15:06

I've already told you all of my thoughts RE: the Hippus contact & the lair in chat (feel free to post them here, with the standard "contains PBEM V references" warning =) ). As for the land you've revealed, I'd like to say one word to you, just one word- "Spring".

DaveV · May 12th, 2011, 16:26

[strike]Rihanna[/strike] Rhoanna is a the "builder" Hippus leader, making a rush much less likely. But scouts can conquer cities in this game, so make sure you don't leave your capital empty.

I see another hut 5W1S from your scout. Mirror of Heaven cannot be explored (only Broken Sepulcher, Pyre of the Seraphic, and Bradeline's Well can be), and you do indeed only need to connect it via road to gain the sun mana. You should probably negotiate the fate of the dungeon on which your warrior is standing; usually exploration of a lair that's much closer to another player is pretty much automatic.

Bob's right - a spring adept would be really nice to have.

#43 · May 13th, 2011, 19:30

Have you concluded negotiations with the Hippus?

Also, regarding the Mirror- it's a great find. Blinding light is a fantastic spell, and even scorch has some potentially rather nasty offensive applications. Like, "say, that's a real nice capital you have there, Mr. Hippus. Sure would be a shame if someone were to turn half the tiles to desert!" devil

Kyan · May 14th, 2011, 14:21

Ok, the chat transcript is far too long to post here but you can have it if you want. It won't be easy reading. However, i would call it fairly fruitful.

For now, we've signed a 10turn NAP- this is important as it means we dont have to kill his scout to avoid a warcry rush at our capital. However, he's gone away to propose a significantly longer NAP to his lurkers. He clearly came in with a goal in mind- to settle 5 tiles from our capital. Our capitals are only 11 tiles apart (!!!).

The conversation ended with the proposal of the NAP including the following clauses:

- site ceded to the Balseraphs ( wink

)
- 10turn mind mana loan
- 10turn unspecified mana loan
- potentially other clauses including warning of dogpiles, roading between us for trade purposes

I basically left all options open *except* letting him have that site. A city 5 tiles from our capital just screams warcried horse units. rawkking made it clear that he was very pro signing such an agreement but he just wanted to double check with his lurkers for their opinions. He is aware that any aggresion towards us would be painful. He has done his research on me but appears to have only read one of my threads- the Babylon one from pitboss 3. that's quite handy as i was a hell of a lot worse back then and him underestimating us works fine for me.

the official letter i sent him after the chat:

Kyan · May 14th, 2011, 14:22

There was a picture of a clwon on the email too in ASCII, but it comes accross too funky on the forums.

Krill · May 15th, 2011, 02:25

You can post the transcript for your lurkers to read and;
Isn't this your first game of FfH2 (well, MP?) So wouldn't PB3 be a good thread for him to read? OTOH, you did get screwed by your start there

Kyan · May 15th, 2011, 05:24

Krill Wrote:

You can post the transcript for your lurkers to read and;

Krill Wrote:
Isn't this your first game of FfH2 (well, MP?) So wouldn't PB3 be a good thread for him to read? OTOH, you did get screwed by your start there

Absolutely yes, on both fronts. It also shows me being a loyal ally which is exactly what i want. I'd rather not, for example, read PBEM4 where i forced two people into vassalage and destroyed the rest. If he sees that, he might not be so keen to jump into bed.

The last couple of turns have been fairly uneventful. Got 23 gold from a hut which is a fairly crap result considering a couple of people have popped techs (from scoreboard. looks like Gaspar and Acaloastas). No matter, we have one other hut in vision currently so fingers crossed for that one. No reply from Rawkking yet.

#48 · May 15th, 2011, 05:42

Should your scout live long enough, it would be wise to stand on the Mirror of Heaven after getting that third hut. The mirror gives a giant cone of vision in a random (I think) direction for every unit which stands on it- so you might reveal more land / huts / civ. It's also a great place to eventually park a unit for eternity to get vision on approaching enemies, but if you were to try that now you'd probably just lose your scout within a few turns to a roving barb of some variety.

Kyan · May 15th, 2011, 11:52

Bobchillingworth Wrote:I've already told you all of my thoughts RE: the Hippus contact & the lair in chat (feel free to post them here, with the standard "contains PBEM V references" warning =) ). As for the land you've revealed, I'd like to say one word to you, just one word- "Spring".

If you spring floodplains... do they become 4f 1h 1g tiles?

Bad news this turn. A poison goblin (3strength total) has appeared at our eastern border. We can get a warrior out in time but it means our worker is stuck 1 turn from completion which is rather frustrating. It also means, potentially, we could get knocked out but he'd be attacking over a river onto a hill with +10% cultural defence and the warriors innate +25% defence in cities.

strength 3 vs strength 3 + 25% + 25% + 10% +25% = strength 5.55. His odds of winning should be like 1% so i suppose the silver lining is the unit gets 1 free xp. Woop.

Sciz · May 15th, 2011, 12:34

you can't spring flood plains. Only normal desert tiles and oasis tiles

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