FFH2PBEMXII Organizing and Tech Thread

[Gaspar]

Just wondering would people rather play this from the very beginning, or start 1 era into the game? I think starting 1 era later would be quite nice for a change, and speed up the early game so we can play with our cool broken shit.

Rather than an era in, which nerfs the barbs a bit, I'd rather just make sure we're guarantee'd a pair of blitzes early on. FFH11 is an excellent template, I think. But without blitz or advanced start, the early game really sucks for PBEM.

[Sareln]

Just wondering would people rather play this from the very beginning, or start 1 era into the game? I think starting 1 era later would be quite nice for a change, and speed up the early game so we can play with our cool broken shit.

I'd rather start from the beginning with a blitz or two to get us on our way.

[Serdoa]

Agreeing with Sareln on that.

[Krill]

I can't guarantee I'll be around for a blitz for the next 6 weeks. I'd actually say it's close to certain that I won't be, in fact, due to working nights and weekends.

[Sareln]

I can't guarantee I'll be around for a blitz for the next 6 weeks. I'd actually say it's close to certain that I won't be, in fact, due to working nights and weekends.

Blitzing is not a necessity for me, and I don't mind the slow FfH opening. So I would be happy with either setting. I'm not sure which techs are included in the Ancient Era though, it may be quite a few.

[Krill]

Blitzing is not a necessity for me, and I don't mind the slow FfH opening. So I would be happy with either setting. I'm not sure which techs are included in the Ancient Era though, it may be quite a few.

Actually, looking at it, it is quite a few.

1. Agriculture
   
2. Calendar
   
3. Festivals
   
4. Animal Husbandry
   
5. Exploration
   
6. Fishing
   
7. Hunting(!)
   
8. Cartography
   
9. Crafting
   
10. Mining Masonry
    
11. Ancient Chants
    
12. Education
    
13. Mysticism

Yeah, that is a lot. I'm surprised the underlined ones aren't left out tbh (though I suppose Lanun would want Fishing...). Hunting though is such a huge tech...

What about this, if people think it'll be slow: Start with all of the first tier techs, Agri, Exploartion, Crafting, Anc Chants, plus Mining and a worker?

[Bobchillingworth]

I'm not sure which techs are included in the Ancient Era though, it may be quite a few.

IIRC it's Ancient Chants, Agriculture, Animal Husbandry, Crafting, Mining, Masonry, Calendar, Mysticism, Education, Festivals, Archery, Hunting, Fishing. Maybe Cartography too.


It's pretty fun- I usually play SP one era in. Being able to start off in God King and build hawks very early on speeds up development & scouting at a rate about commensurate with the free techs. Lots of neat choices from turn 0- do you beeline Drama for the free artist ASAP or try for one of the early religions? Do you want to build a worker or a market... or something else? And so forth. It can be an issue with huts though, since you'll be just one lucky pop away from having Animal Handling, which if you can get early enough probably means Game Over for everyone else (or at least anyone close by).



Edit: Crosspost!

[Square Leg]

Whilst I appreciate that the start can be a bit slow in ffh, I don't really want to start 1 era in.

In the interest of getting things moving...

Now shamelessly copied from the PBEM IX tech thread which was orignally copied from the......

[Most of this shamlessly copied from Selrahc's post, which was copied from the PBEM V Tech Thread]:


My preferences are in Green

* Unrestricted Leaders? Yes!

* Game speed? Quick

* Starting era? Ancient followed by Krill's suggestion

* Orthus: on or off? On

* Acheron: For the love of God, OFF

* Human take-over allowed for Basium and/or Hyborem? Yes

* Difficulty level? Immortal

* Barb activity level? normal if on Immortal

* Wildlands? No

* Last Days? No

* Living World? Yes

* Lairs? Yes

* All Unique Features? Mapmakers choice

* Map type? Mapmakers choice but I would vote for something fairly normal since we adding a twist in having unrestricted leaders.

* Always War/Diplomacy allowed? No/Yes

* Leader Duplicates allowed? No and no civ duplicates as this buggers up world hero units.

* Snake pic? No See Serdoa's post about sending in top3's to a mapmaker.

I can't think of anything else at the moment.

Is the final roster agreed?

Krill
Sareln
Amelia
Elimist+Mist
Serdoa+WK
Square Leg+Brian Shanahan

[Sareln]

My Votes

• Unrestricted Leaders? Yes!
  
• Game speed? Quick
  
• Starting era? Ancient or a handful of starting techs, but nothing too extravagant.
  
• Orthus: on or off? On
  
• Acheron: OFF
  
• Human take-over allowed for Basium and/or Hyborem? Yes
  
• Difficulty level? Immortal
  
• Barb activity level? Normal
  
• Wildlands? No
  
• Last Days? No
  
• Living World? Yes
  
• Lairs? Yes
  
• All Unique Features? Mapmaker's choice
  
• Map type? Mapmakers choice. No blasted, inhospitable lands like in FfH6 thankyee.
  
• Always War/Diplomacy allowed? No/Yes
  
• Leader Duplicates allowed? No
  
• Civ Duplicates allowed? Definitely No!
  
• Snake pick? Yes
  

[Serdoa]

My preferences are in Green

* Unrestricted Leaders? Yes!

* Game speed? Quick

* Starting era? Ancient followed by Krill's suggestion

* Orthus: on or off? On

* Acheron: For the love of God, OFF

* Human take-over allowed for Basium and/or Hyborem? Yes

* Difficulty level? Emperor

* Barb activity level? normal

* Wildlands? Yes

* Last Days? No

* Living World? Yes

* Lairs? Yes

* All Unique Features? Mapmakers choice

* Map type? Something normal, if in doubt more lush then dry and starting spots AND areas which are at least not to much different from one another. Natural looking is fine and all but if it means that one player does not have rivers or does have to expand aggressively just to get a few riverside tiles it is game over on turn 0 - and thats no fun at all.

* Always War/Diplomacy allowed? No/Yes

* Leader Duplicates allowed? Don't care

* Snake pic? Yes

I haven't discussed those with WK though, so if he voices his disagreement with any one of the above I might change.