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Rebalancing Civ4: RtR Mod

I think it was made so you can't trade pre-Paper techs, but I could be wrong.
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Kuro Wrote:I think it was made so you can't trade pre-Paper techs, but I could be wrong.

You are absolutely right:
Quote:All techs prior to paper cannot be traded.

duh me!

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yeah, no beelining Paper for back trades. Not doing a PB3 again.
Current games (All): RtR: PB80 Civ 6: PBEM23

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 Games ded lurked: PB18
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Looking at it, I think Vassalage might of been buffed a little too much.

I'm playing an AI game with RBMod to help get a feel for it and Vassalage is giving me +33 free military support and +33 free regular units. All things considered I have a standing army of 32 Curassiers, 12 Cavalry, 26 Longbows, 9 Knights and some other assorted stuff, with most of the Curassiers and some of the Cavalry in enemy territory.

I'm paying 3 gpt for unit support! This is on Prince, sure...but take away what Financial shows as the -3 handicap cost and it's still only 6 gpt. According to the Financial Advisor, I have about 113 free unit support total! Before I started warring with Cyrus and had a lower warring army, it was only 2/4 too.

Without Vassalage, I would be paying 40 gpt for my army without handicap costs, 24 with it.

I dunno, maybe it's not quite as bad as I first thought, but that is a huge savings. Vassalage itself is only costing a little more than low upkeep and at medium less than Beu, too.
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Kuro Wrote:Looking at it, I think Vassalage might of been buffed a little too much.

I'm playing an AI game with RBMod to help get a feel for it and Vassalage is giving me +33 free military support and +33 free regular units. All things considered I have a standing army of 32 Curassiers, 12 Cavalry, 26 Longbows, 9 Knights and some other assorted stuff, with most of the Curassiers and some of the Cavalry in enemy territory.

The military units bonus should only kick in when you run Pacifism.
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Cyneheard Wrote:The military units bonus should only kick in when you run Pacifism.

Really?

Hm. Then I guess running an army is a lot cheaper than I thought and I just never noticed.

I'll maybe test to make sure this works right but you can 90% likely just ignore my post.
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Kuro Wrote:Really?

Hm. Then I guess running an army is a lot cheaper than I thought and I just never noticed.

I'll maybe test to make sure this works right but you can 90% likely just ignore my post.

Well, it is Prince. On Prince:

6 free units, and units only cost 60% after handicap. And then there's all of the free per-pop free units, which is 0.24*Pop standard, and an extra 0.1*Vassalage, which also has another 5 free units. So that's 11 + 0.34*Pop, which if Vassalage is 33 free units, would be consistent with something like 280 pop.

And you're looking at a 35ish gpt difference pre-handicap bonus, with 33 free units. That's what it should be.
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Cyneheard Wrote:Well, it is Prince. On Prince:

6 free units, and units only cost 60% after handicap. And then there's all of the free per-pop free units, which is 0.24*Pop standard, and an extra 0.1*Vassalage, which also has another 5 free units. So that's 11 + 0.34*Pop, which if Vassalage is 33 free units, would be consistent with something like 280 pop.

And you're looking at a 35ish gpt difference pre-handicap bonus, with 33 free units. That's what it should be.

Oh, I see.

I honestly never knew how unit stuff like that worked, so thank you for clearing that up. XD
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Is it possible to add a NAP contract to the game so that NAPs made can be reinforced by the game? Just like the forced peace after gifts.
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No idea and I'd never implement that.
Current games (All): RtR: PB80 Civ 6: PBEM23

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 Games ded lurked: PB18
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