I'm all for a rational diplomatic worldview and boring diplo-speak. I'm just having some fun. Lighten up. 
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Diplomacy Master Thread- Helping Your Opponents Beat Themselves
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(November 9th, 2012, 18:52)Boldly Going Nowhere Wrote: Now, I'm off to waive my private parts in their general direction.  "Waive" 1 archaic : give up, forsake 2 : to throw away (stolen goods) 3 archaic : to shunt aside (as a danger or duty) : evade 4 a : to relinquish voluntarily (as a legal right) <waive a jury trial> b : to refrain from pressing or enforcing (as a claim or rule) : forgo <waive the fee>
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Yeah Boldly, try to be careful with 4B, that would be rather rude to do "in someone's general direction." And possibly illegal as well?
Anyway I'm in the "let's have fun with this" camp. Obviously I won't be going anywhere near our official diplomatic correspondence but what's a little taunting among rivals? As long as we aren't too mean spirited about it what's the big deal? That someone will read a post here in a year and come away with those guys a Realms Beyond are such jerks, they dropped a Sin City reference on me and then followed it up with Monty Python, so ruuuuude! this is the Internet, you get trolls beside your cute kittens and civ forums sometimes, and it doesn't matter. Just have fun with it! Played: Pitboss 18 - Kublai Khan of Germany Somalia | Pitboss 11 - De Gaulle of Byzantium | Pitboss 8 - Churchill of Portugal | PB7 - Mao of Native America | PBEM29 Greens - Mao of Babylon
I'm all for making fun and light-hearted posts, but we have to be careful what we make fun of.
The trouble here is that social impressions often feed into a positive feedback cycle - ie it's mutually reinforcing. If "RB are jerks", then everything we post publicly will be filtered through that, and can easily be used to reinforce that perception. The one truly safe target we can make fun of is ourselves, and that can be used to combat the above tendency. But I'd rather celebrate great play than mock bad play.
Furthermore, I consider that forum views should be fluid in width
I should leave typos in my posts more often...
 Lighten up. I'm not Scooter sending our team's official correspondence. Have some fun within our team with this stuff. If an opportunity presents itself for a potshot later on, and we are unconcerned by diplomatic fallout in that specific, insular circumstance, sure, send a "Hey Sugar" message. I'm not advocating for throwing the game for the sake of sticking it to the other teams with a meme. Some of us are starting to sound like soulless automatons. Lighten up.
November 10th, 2012, 09:18
(This post was last modified: November 10th, 2012, 11:59 by NobleHelium.)
 (November 10th, 2012, 11:00)Sullla Wrote: I think we're heading down a line of discussion that's not very productive. Let's get back to the actual message from We Play Civ: Well their message has absolutely nothing of substance, so I would be perfectly happy to send a response with absolutely nothing of substance.
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Well, trouble is that tone and level of intent hardly comes through in posts like this. And I was mostly commented on Sullla's eagerness to use French taunting again later in the game.
Furthermore, I consider that forum views should be fluid in width
I think we're heading down a line of discussion that's not very productive. Let's get back to the actual message from We Play Civ:
Tatu/WePlayCiv Wrote:Greetings, Scooter is going to draw up a response over the weekend. Any suggestions beyond "general vague welcome message"?
Let's ask about any chance of trade routes. DO they know of the river that we think leads into the sea, ask if they have a city on said sea. Ask if they'd be interested in Open Borders. You can even role play a bit and say our merchants yearn to mix with those of other nations.
We could also say our people have struggled under the weight of heavy rocks and stone but the result has been worth the effort. Our people pray at obelisks and are better for it. Or something roleplay-y. They really didn't leave us a lot of openings to discus things. All they've really done is confirmed what we told them, roleplayed about their civ's life and asked us to do the same.
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
(November 10th, 2012, 10:10)kjn Wrote: But the most important news is that it is confirmed that WPC is the rival top in power at 73000. Of this, 31000 comes from pop and tech, and the rest from units and buildings. I think they've built a barracks earlier, and they might have finished a totem pole by now, but the rest - 38000 - comes from units. Considering we made contact with WPC's borders, and they don't know where our cities are, I suspect that we're not their target. But you never know. What do you guys think? What's our hazard report? |
