Not necessarily. Notice that I never mentioned "owed" either. The refugee crisis was a good opportunity for Hungary to take in a few thousand workers while doing the good action of granting asylum to people fleeing wars. The fact that they didn't was a lose-lose deal fueled by xenophobia.
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For starters, that their government merely chose not to do so is a far cry from any real xenophobic hellhole out there. But you only think they would have taken in a few thousand workers without any action?
http://www.police.hu/hirek-es-informacio...lekerdezes Compare the rates before and after putting up their fence. Not just a few pithy thousand coming through the border (October 17th, 2017, 14:37)MJW (ya that one) Wrote: FPÖ can just not compromise with the President and because ÖVP and SPÖ won't form coalition it would trigger another election which would be a de facto referendum on President vs the FPÖ which the FPÖ would win because the President veto would trigger massive "we against reigning parties" and this time the ÖVP would support the FPÖ not the President. If they try that they will be seen as the ones who don't want to work. It would cost them votes. It was the ÖVP who pushed the hardest that Austria should join the EU and so far they have been very pro-EU. As the ÖVP is strongly influenced/led by Farmers, Industrial-leaders and business-man who all profit a good deal from the EU I don't see it changing direction. (October 17th, 2017, 14:37)MJW (ya that one) Wrote: I predict the President will rubber stamp any ÖVP-FPÖ deal and occasionally throw out vetoes to avoid implicitly endorsing them.Doesn't work that way. Our president can only veto laws if they were made thanks to breaches of the basic law (for example if MoP were forced to vote for a law). (October 17th, 2017, 15:57)AdrienIer Wrote: A country with a lack of workers refusing immigration for ideological reasons has a xenophobia problem I would say that depends what kind of workers you lack and what kind of work the immigrants can do. Not to mention the language problem (especially in Hungary ). (October 17th, 2017, 15:57)AdrienIer Wrote: A country with a lack of workers refusing immigration for ideological reasons has a xenophobia problem Who said Hungary lacking workers? many of the borders are working in romania which by UE ratings is a poor country.And dont tell me you call those refugees workers..., they are worse then romanian gipssies(yes we ahve them here from 400 years and still like under 10% are working).I remeber 15 years ago french governement lecturing Romania a bout those gipsies(as they do with so x called refugies now), and after borders were open i think more then 50000 gipsies from Romania went to france and now they try to sent them back even offering money to escape from them. I ma very courious to see how many from imigrants which went to france, germany or other country for more then 1 year are working right now..., how many rapes they comited (yeah the imigrants are mostly males), but your goverments will not let you know and everyone which has question will be called well as carpathia likes xenophobe. And even more ask why these people dont go to theyr brothers in faith(those dont receive them but offered to build a moskey in every city were they go, of course not in theyr country).Just look on youtobe what Immam's belive about Europe and how need to be conquered .Answer is easy they are 'rockin' the social system and the good will of the people of the west countries, and the fact they made the 'white man' to feel guilty about what he is and what he build. (October 17th, 2017, 16:23)AdrienIer Wrote:(October 17th, 2017, 15:59)Krill Wrote: Morality isn't defined by money, but sometimes the reverse is.Money is defined by morality ? Yeah, when someone starts thinking you should do something because it makes money, I tend to start questioning their motivations.
There is an interesting debate to be had about this Greenline and Rowain, but I'm super tired and have a lot of work this week. Sorry for not taking the time to answer you.
(October 18th, 2017, 11:49)mackoti Wrote:(October 17th, 2017, 15:57)AdrienIer Wrote: A country with a lack of workers refusing immigration for ideological reasons has a xenophobia problem This on the other side I have to address to some extent because I loathe white supremacy. 1) Hungary has a 5% unemployment rate. So yes it could use more workers. 2) Gypsies are an entirely different issue, because they are nomads who are struggling with modern society (that is 100% sedentary). They also happen to live in a rather poor country which discriminates them, which fuels their communitarianism. 3) In France refugees cannot work (by law) for quite some time. Most of the refugees that were taken in are taking classes, both language classes and "cultural" classes so they know what they have to do differently. 4) Yeah it's just a worldwide conspiracy to have all western women raped by refugees  5) The countries which house most immigrants are Muslim countries. Jordan. Turkey. Lebanon. They're completely overwhelmed. What we call the refugee crisis in Europe is ridiculously small compared to what those countries are facing. 6) I'm more frightened by what some priest do or say (like the Saint-Nicolas-du-Chardonnet people) than by what an obscure Immam on the other side of the world is saying. You'll be able to find crazy religious people of every religion, Islam is no different. 7) You cannot "rock the social system" right upon arrival. At 'best' you can start abusing it after you've worked for a few years, so at least 5 to 10 years after you've gained legal status. |
