RBP3 [SPOILERS] - Friendly Kittens (Ragnar of Maya)

[RefSteel]

Hukawng Valley:

(Yes, this is re-posted from above.)
(I wanted it by itself to avoid confusion.)
(Hopefully.)



Worker actions:

- COTTAGE the last Floodplain
- Then COTTAGE a Grassland

These actions will not affect food or hammers of course...
...so can be delayed for important strategic needs.
(e.g. road to Green Dot?)

Have a great weekend!

[Maniac Marshall]

When I got back to the room tonite, I noticed the turn had rolled finally, so I logged in to make sure everything was going according to plan, which it is, however, I accidentally misclicked a very important fogbusting chariot in the NW With my luck, he'll probably move right next to a spear next turn Sorry about that.

EDIT: BTW, I have NOT played the turn other than misclicking the sentry chariot and moving an axe, and, or coused, okin'g the new build orders for Kilrah and HV.

[Morgan]

Just a quick one, will play in 12h i've not forgotten.

[RefSteel]

Just a quick one, will play in 12h i've not forgotten.

Many thanks, Morgan!

(Maniac: No worries.)

[Maniac Marshall]

I just got back from the 6 1/2 day trip about 30 minutes ago, and note that we played one turn while I was gone, which I think was about how many we played while I was gone on the 11 day trip earlier I'm going to log in and look around, and I might move a couple of units, but I'll leave plenty for Moargan to do.

[Morgan]

Can't get in the game as your in there manic.

Play as much as you can, I read the wrong turn plan so the workers haven't roaded the pig at smiths, they need to chop the current plains forest then road the oinks. Sorry about that.

Got to go out shortly, but will check back later on some time.

[Maniac Marshall]

Fierias did not build the temple last turn, it stayed building a university, so the sankore plan is now impossible. I have no idea what to do there now, maybe we have to abandon the wonder, which REALLY sucks.

It has 138 of 200 in the University presently. So a double whip of it is still possible, but we don't yet have stone.

The Hindu temple, still has 78/80 of course.

Should we build something else for a turn, then whip the temple -> sankore, then back to University double whip -> sankore?

Do we single whip them both? I really dont know.

I know we can't build the temple now as it would have to overflow into the university, which could then only be single whipped

[Maniac Marshall]

Well, the power went out while I was making this reply... what else is going to go wrong. Hopefully I remember everything. It's possible (just) to only put 60 hammers into a university the next 2 turns, which would involve working 2 hills, 2 cottages and a plains one turn, and 3 mines and 2 cottages the second. At which point we could whip the temple and overflow into Sankore, then switch back to the uni, whip it and overflow into Sankore. I don't know if this is worth doing or not. It certianlly overvlows 28 hammers before multiplier twice, which may be the absolute best we can do at this point? I guess If I don't hear otherwise, I'll do that, but I'm hoping there is a better solution that this, though I doubt it.

It certinally gets the wonder done at least 2 and maybe 3 turns slower (since we'll have to build the temple next turn instead of sankore, and the Uni again in a couple turns instead of sankore, and it probably provides less overflow hammers on top of it) than the original for no real benefit other than a handful of beakers.

Regarding the other city. I have no idea if the road on the pigs was needed for the rest of the plan. If not, we can probably just go on without the road there for now. I'll wait to do anything there till I hear.

[Maniac Marshall]

I went ahead and finished the turn. If it's important that the pigs be roaded (and I don't think it is) I'll pull the worker off Red Dwarf and he can do it in 4 turns and then there will be a completed road between there and RD.

I'm going to work the half day tomorrow instead of today, so, I'll see what I can do to fix Fierias, though I know Ref could do it twice as well in half the time.

The earliest I can see finishing it now is turn 142, which is a full 3 turns later. Hopefully someone else can figure out a better way, thats the best I can come up with

EDIT: OK, I THINK we can just finish the temple this turn, can still double whip the University next turn, and only lose a turn on Sankore, but I'm not going to do that until someone confirms I'm right, or right before the timer expires.

EDIT: OK, My sleep deprived brain, which is incapable of doing the math right now came up with the idea to use the sandbox. And yes, we can go finish the temple and then double whip the university. Unfortunately, it DOES look like the lost turn is unfixable, but hey, I was thinking we were losing three turns, so, by comparison, I'm happy.

More Edit. Upon further review, at the cost of a few food, we can work a plains tile instead and get it done on schedule. I think we should do that.

SO, to review. I plan to finish the temple this turn, double whip the uni next turn, and work a plains farm rather than a grass one to get Sankore done on schedule. Any issues with this?

Also, I misclicked yet again. This time it was a worker near pride rock that was working on a plains farm. I guess I should get a mouse instead of using the touch pad

[RefSteel]

Maniac, you are correct on all points!

There is no need to road the pigs tile for the Smithsonian plan; it merely avoided wasting two worker turns (by turning them into a road we'll want eventually but certainly don't need yet). If the plan is being followed otherwise, we can just continue with that. If there's a worker near Red Dwarf (or anywhere) with time on his hands, I'll be happy to make suggestions (if my computer is working when they're posted)!

The U Sankore situation is actually fine - it might actually be an improvement. If I understand what's happened correctly, we should be able to just switch back to the temple with no other changes; See next post.