I figured that such a leader would be grossly overpowered, and it doesn't surprise me that one of you two were the ones to get him/her cut from the game (hmmm a leader who could build wonders faster, and who pops great engineers twice as fast as everyone else could relatively easily monopolise any wonders that they could get the techs for...)
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The Civ4 Walkthrough
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Rowain Wrote:Why not. Imagine a full MP-game and you end up with lets say 5,6 Cities left and the rest is divided between Sulla and Sirian. Wouldn't you prefer a quick Diploending (although it means you are not the winner) of one of them over getting wiped out or watching those 2 fighting it out turn after boring turn knowing that you have no chance to win?Of course, because I get to eat and watch TV, but the AI has nothing else to do than just playing the game.  And I could just abandon the game like that, instead of waiting for the Modern Age and the UN (no city abandonning feature ? let's give my civ to an AI then !)... And I hope that the Diplo victory isn't there to cut an expected, boring end to Civ4 games (military, culture or spaceship) !!  It should be a full victory, and in Civ3 I came to the point that it should be disallowed in my games. BTW, I have yet to see a human-only PBEM (or MP game, but I'm in PBEMs) ending with the Diplo victory, which isn't good when you know they tried to make SP and MP experiences as close to each other as possible (or so I believe). And what more anti-climax than a 1v1 PBEM featuring a few AIs where one of the humans wins through Diplo ? In the end, the best may have been to forget about such a victory condition ?Brrr... I should shut up now, but you keep on feeding me with some arguments I want to respond to. 
Rowain Wrote:Imagine a full MP-game and you end up with lets say 5,6 Cities left and the rest is divided between Sulla and Sirian. Wouldn't you prefer a quick Diploending (although it means you are not the winner) of one of them over getting wiped out or watching those 2 fighting it out turn after boring turn knowing that you have no chance to win?I would post lookouts on the battlefield and learn. And then fill up the empty space with settlers and backstab one of the two, of course. Dunedine Wrote:Why when I click on his link to the walkthrough I get a "File Not Found" message? Anybody else experience this? I would really like to read it. Sullla had to change webhosts due to the extreme amount of users trying to reach his site. The new site (with waaaay more bandwidth) is here.
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