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Elkad Wrote:Play on. Or quit. Stop fucking crying.
Go read the sign up thread. "The Rules" are virtually non-existent in order to prevent rule-mongering. So whether or not he played within the rules isn't the issue. Whether the spirit of the game is broken is. The game type itself is defined as casual, fun and not super competitive. It was stated in the sign up thread that if you can't stop yourself from being super competitive, don't sign up.
And fine. If you want it that way, I'm willing to bet 2/3rds of the people here will simply quit. I'm willing to walk away. Ichabod and Team FFH already have a foot out the door. So yes, we can quit. Our game administrator has already quit. If LP wants to powergame he can do it by himself. If you want to set alarm clocks do it on your on time.
As for playing on. Games paused. I didn't pause it. I'm on a mac. I can't unpause it. And I'm not sure anyone wants to unpause it.
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I and Seven agree with Azza taking over ASM.
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Elkad Wrote:Edit to add. There are more of you, I just got tired of quoting everyone..
What the fuck? He's playing within the rules. Rules specifically designed to create double-move shenanigans. I've been logging in just once a turn since I took over. But if it mattered, I'd be setting my alarm clock for 4AM to grab that double-move too.
Do I want a rule change? Unless it's all the way to a traditional standard where each party gets half the timer, NO, and I'll vote against any minor change designed to alter the balance of power for double-moving.
Play on. Or quit. Stop fucking crying.
Have you ever read my invitation post fot this game. I guess most of you haven't since over and over one needs to be telling that rules are there as a final limit. Not the limit that you should be constantly abusing, because if that is the case we yet again need a rule book of 10 cm thick. The rules definately would try to prevent constant use of alarm clock gaming.
Mist recommended me to call it a game before sending the password to Azza and I'm starting to think that is probably for the best.
ASM and LP what did you do to my baby . (Yes now I'm really crying)
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plako Wrote:ASM and LP what did you do to my baby . (Yes now I'm really crying)
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plako Wrote:Have you ever read my invitation post fot this game. I guess most of you haven't since over and over one needs to be telling that rules are there as a final limit. Not the limit that you should be constantly abusing, because if that is the case we yet again need a rule book of 10 cm thick. The rules definately would try to prevent constant use of alarm clock gaming.
Mist recommended me to call it a game before sending the password to Azza and I'm starting to think that is probably for the best.
ASM and LP what did you do to my baby . (Yes now I'm really crying)
I'm sorry for you Plako 
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@LP - Nah, I wasn't using the auto logger. Otherwise I would have hit when sunrise logged in. I'm agreeing to call it act of random packet loss.
I'd like to see this going again to see if anyone can kill LP (probably not). I'll even play something (my plans are all shot to hell so It'll just be some random fortification) to just flip the turn.
Edit: THERE, you have something to do.
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plako Wrote:Mist recommended me to call it a game before sending the password to Azza and I'm starting to think that is probably for the best.
ASM and LP what did you do to my baby . (Yes now I'm really crying)
I don't want to see the game ended. And I'm sure most other people don't either. I also don't even understand why it was ever thought we need Mist as an admin. The game shouldn't even need that. So I don't think we need to replace Mist.
As long as LP tones down the amount of his login times, and doesn't try to always maneuver the clock for a DM advantage repeatedly, then everything should be fine. (this actually goes for everyone, but only LP has been doing it recently...but then again, he & ASM have been two of the only people who have been involved in major wars so far. I don't consider MackSeven/Azza a marjor war...since it was pretty much over before it began. :neenernee
Maybe just have LP follow a penalty such that for the next 100 turns he can only log in once a turn. If he wants to pick a turn at some point to try to be last to play near the end of the timer, and then play his next turn after the 2 hr mark, then that's fine. He wouldn't be able to do it in consecutive turns because he would have to wait until the next turn (with everyone playing after him) before he could play again. I think that's fair enough punishment.
I really do hope we can play-on, right now. ASM, have you sent your password to Azza so that he can start playing going forward?
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I don't think any punishments are needed. But anyways, new turn available. Not sure if the game should be paused or not, but atm it's unpaused.
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HitAnyKey Wrote:I don't want to see the game ended. And I'm sure most other people don't either. I also don't even understand why it was ever thought we need Mist as an admin. The game shouldn't even need that. So I don't think we need to replace Mist.
As long as LP tones down the amount of his login times, and doesn't try to always maneuver the clock for a DM advantage repeatedly, then everything should be fine. (this actually goes for everyone, but only LP has been doing it recently...but then again, he & ASM have been two of the only people who have been involved in major wars so far. I don't consider MackSeven/Azza a marjor war...since it was pretty much over before it began. :neenernee
Maybe just have LP follow a penalty such that for the next 100 turns he can only log in once a turn. If he wants to pick a turn at some point to try to be last to play near the end of the timer, and then play his next turn after the 2 hr mark, then that's fine. He wouldn't be able to do it in consecutive turns because he would have to wait until the next turn (with everyone playing after him) before he could play again. I think that's fair enough punishment.
I really do hope we can play-on, right now. ASM, have you sent your password to Azza so that he can start playing going forward?
The reason there is a game admin is so that when arguments break out (like here) there is someone impartial to solve it. As it is, you now lack a game admin because of players behaviour, and you have a game that some people are about to walk away from because of said behaviour.
How are you going to get everyone on the same page?
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Meiz Wrote:I don't think any punishments are needed. But anyways, new turn available. Not sure if the game should be paused or not, but atm it's unpaused.
I don't require a punishment either, for myself to continue. I'll continue no matter what the decision is. I was just putting it out there in case anyone felt they would not be willing to continue without some form of punishment.
I'm willing to give LP another chance to tone down his timer gaming, multiple logins, and trying to repeatedly get a DM advantage. Once in awhile is acceptable, as long as it's not a frequent occurrence.
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