[SPOILERS] Bismark of Sumeria (luddite + Atlas1998)

[luddite]

Is there a way to take a screenshot without it showing the research bar and the commerce sliders?

[Nicolae Carpathia]

Try cropping out the top and the corner, or just cover it with a black fill.

[DMOC]

Isn't there a "bare map" view, or a "natural map" view that gets rid of the user interface?

Try Alt + I.

[NobleHelium]

You could also replace it and say you're researching Agriculture.

[luddite]

Plako came through for me again

If there is lot of will I think we might want to try to deny Economics Merchant from him. I don't know who would have best shot at it. Maybe Locke? If we all loan money for him to run at 100% towards it and then he could repay us with intrest that might work. Opinions? Anyone having a shot at it should say how many turns you would need to get to Economics at 100% + full research emphasis and how much gold per turn you would need to do it.

Unfortunately, even if everybody loaned me gold so I could run max science, I don't think I could beat Parkin to economics right now. He just teched guilds in one turn! And his gold barely even went down.

[luddite]

Isn't there a "bare map" view, or a "natural map" view that gets rid of the user interface?

Try Alt + I.

Thanks, this is what I was looking for.

A few brief updates:

Apparently mackoti has been dumping EP points on me for a while now, despite our no-espionage agreement. I just lost visibility on all his cities. I'm focusing EP on him for a while.

He's currently teching engineering, another war tech. However, he still has no source of iron. I've asked all the other players not to trade him any iron. Also, his tech pace is much slower than mine- it'll take him 7 turns to finish engineering, whereas i could do it in just 3 or 4. I might actually be able to get rifling before our NAP expires on turn 190, or at least soon afterwards.

Parkin just finished banking, again in one turn. Apparently he can run max research and only lost about 100 gold. Not good!

The sistine chapel will finish in 10 turns, or 8 if I slave away half the city. I'll probably slave it, just to make sure I get it.

I've asked other players to send me missionaries for the remaining religions (my excuse was that I wanted more monasteries, which is partly true). Plako said yes, Locke said he doesn't have any taoist monasteries yet, and parkin hasn't responded.

[luddite]

So parkin just teched economics in one turn- that's REALLY not good. at least his gold went down from doing that. I'm starting to get nervous that he might actually get machine guns before we can invade.

Mackoti had a big spike in power this turn. No idea what that was about. He still doesn't have iron.

[luddite]

I just posted this in the PV forum:

Guys we need to seriously reconsider our plans. He got economics in 1 turn, which means he can research more than 2000 beakers per turn! And now he's in free market, which will pump up his research rate even more. By my count, he could get to rifling in just 4 turns, and then get to assembly line or railroad just 10 turns after that! Of course he might detour for techs like democracy or astronomy, but it hardly matters- he's going to have either machine guns or infantry before turn 200, probably both. His tech rate will go down after his golden age ends, but there's no reason he can't start another golden age in the next 20 turns.

One thing we should definitely do is organize a mass boycott against him by getting all civs to close their borders to him. That won't do much, but it will at least slow him down a bit.

But what should our main plan be? I can think of five realistic options.

1)Have someone who's not in NAP with him attack him, to slow him down. I think rego and Adlain don't have one with him. I'm not sure about mackoti and sleepingmoogle. And I have no idea if they'd even want to do this. We might have to offer them a large bribe (like, gift them all our gold for the next 20 turns) to do that. Or just straight gift them units.

2)We just break our NAPs and attack right now, while he still doesn't have an army. I would feel bad about doing that, but on the other hand, like Plako said, he lied to us numerous times to set up the NAPs, and it's better than just conceding the game. I think even if we attack right now it would be a difficult war- none of us except locke have a real military right now, and he can use his golden age to switch to nationalism instantly and start drafting rifles for defense, as soon as he techs rifling. So it would be a fair fight.

3)We continue to build up and prepare to declare on turn 200-210, like planned. Rifles won't be enough, because MGs are almost invincible against rifles. The only option I can think of is mass cavalry, with overwhelming numbers. 2 or 3 cavalry can beat a defending MG or infantry.

4)The cheesy option. We could do a mass spread of christianity to every city in the world, and then everyone picks one person and votes for them for religious victory. We could either pick one of ourselves by random number vote, or pick a safe neutral civ like Adlain.

5)Another cheesy option. Everyone runs mass artists, and donates them to one player for a surprise culture victory. We could claim it is an allied victory for the 4 of us. I think we could hold out on defense long enough to make this work, using cannons to shred any attacking force of infantry he sends at us.

[MWIN]

Actually, there is one more option:
6) Concede the game to LP and be done with it:neenernee

[luddite]

Actually, there is one more option:
6) Concede the game to LP and be done with it:neenernee

no way!

I just settled my last city. Now I can work the whole sea, to take maximum advantage of the colossus.


I still need to worry about Mackoti though. Look at all the resources Parkin is giving him! That makes me suspect that he'll gift mackoti iron, also. It mgiht be time to stop giving mackoti silver.


To that end I started making units in Out of Bounds too (I'm also making them in murphy's with the heroic epic). As soon as my other barracks cities finish their univerisities they can start building units too.


And I just got graphs on sleepingmoogle this turn. I wonder what he's up to with this power rating?