[spoilers] Regoarrarr teams up with your mom

[regoarrarr]

Yup. Your mom is playing in this game, and she wants ME to win

[regoarrarr]

So obviously Sian is dreaming if he thinks that he can out-regoarrarr me in post count.

You guys saw what happened in PBEM17, where nospace and krilljs out-posted me. Not coincidentally, that game went in the complete crapper

[darrelljs]

I prefer Darrill.

Darrell

[darrelljs]

And you're welcome for the spam.

Darrell

[regoarrarr]

Okay so time for some actual content. Can't do the traditional "opponent analysis" in these first posts, since we don't know who is playing who. But Krill and I have had a few chats about things, which I suppose I can share. Also, I will take a look at anything I know about any of my opponents

[regoarrarr]

Here was the initial chat with Krill

Krill: hmm?
me: for the new pbem
Krill: Fin banned?
me: they seem like they'd have to be the #1 pick if they're not banned
probably
Krill: Collosus banned?
me: unclear
i voted for it
12:45 PM (for it being banned)
12:46 PM Krill: How many players?
me: 5
12:47 PM Krill: Dutch, Portuguese, Vikings, Carthage are the water civs.
Fin is a must if it isn't banned
me: right
i was wanting spi too
Krill: The problem with Fin is what you'd pair it with
SPI would work fine
me: i have been really digging Spi lately
Krill: I'd suggest AP with SPI on a hammer poor map
12:48 PM FWIW, Fishing/Myst start would actually be interestinf with a IND leader if you had the balls to attempt an early oracle
12:49 PM The Dutch play the long game though, so you'd need to focus on a long game, which a FIN nerf hinders
me: so fishing / myst is only spain
12:53 PM Krill: If the Collosus is banned, which I think you could probably swing, then I'd take leader first
The Dutch are probnably going to get banned
12:54 PM actually, looking at it they are
Vikings and Portugal are not bad picks but aren't game breaking
me: yeah
Krill: Portugal you shadow to Optics and make sure you have Theocracy
and a religion
and you can fuight them hammer for hammer
12:55 PM Vikings, eh, it would be a decent idea to grab circumnavigation if you could
because if you can keep up in tech that's a big enough bonus to win wars
1:00 PM me: so if fin is banned
spi / chm?
1:01 PM Krill: spi phi, spi ind, would be my guess
Gandhi should probably go early
he would be slow though
but everyone is going to tech slow
coast is junk
you'd be best off focussing on per city boni
1:02 PM which would be trade routes, and AP/sankore/UoS again
me: yeah
Krill: You could aim for Pyramids
me: maybe rameses of carthage?
or izzy of carthage?
1:03 PM Krill: You don't want to ge pulled in too many directions
vast horizontal expansion will be cripling
Carthage is good but the Cothon is expensive
1:04 PM and minor though it is, the health benefit isn't that important
me: well that's why i thought izzy
for cheap harbors
i could be bismark again too
Krill: good point
1:05 PM If you wanted to have a go at De Gaulle you could use him and go for the straight wonder haul
It works great for the first 120 turns then the econmy crashes.
1:06 PM me: yeah
had a thought of Chm
not only for happies (henge)
but also extra promos on ships
Krill: Chm works nicely because of hte boats
me: right
Krill: I'd rank that as a very imp[ortant late game trait on tiny islands
probably up there with SPI, fwiw
1:07 PM 1 good hammer city working bureaucracy (you can move the capital) and you could throw down a lot of wonders
me: who's chm/spi
justinian?
brennus
Krill: yeah, Brennus
just is IMP
1:08 PM me: gotcha
Krill: IMP isn't actually that bad because you can just spam settlers, only problem is that you don't usually have the galleys to move them everywhere
me: or washington for chm/exp
1:09 PM Krill: Got lots of options
1:11 PM me: yeah
1:12 PM india for myst/min / FW
de gaulle of india
Krill: IND India would be fairly potent
I got by with 8 workers in PBEM2
1:13 PM with the fast worker could probably have gotten by with 6
for 20 cities
10 minutes
1:23 PM Krill: If you take IND you are going to have to work at leveraging it
me: how
1:24 PM Krill: Need to get Pyramids, most likely
but the religious wonders are there as well
me: yeah
part of me wants to do something else besides the religious wonders
Krill: Oracle would be ignored most likely unless marble is there
me: since i did them in 17
on the other hand, 17 showed me how powerful they are
Krill: They'd be more powerful in this one.
26 is it now?
1:25 PM me: i guess
Krill: You could be a complete bastard and take Rome
and see if you could leverage that somehow
1:26 PM me: wait i thought you were reining IN those aggressive tendencies? ;-)
1:28 PM Krill: My aggresive tendencies, what are those?
I just have protective tendencies

[Krill]

We know you are playing rego, and I'm going to be sitting back here calling you an idiot for the rest of hte game.

You can ask Darrell who he felt about it, if you want some advice.

[Square Leg]

Okay so time for some actual content. Can't do the traditional "opponent analysis" in these first posts, since we don't know who is playing who. But Krill and I have had a few chats about things, which I suppose I can share. Also, I will take a look at anything I know about any of my opponents

That isn't actual content.

Its just a list of what you can't and can do.

You really are an expert spammer!

[regoarrarr]

Here was another chat I had with darrelljs, before he went and spoiled himself.

me: way to stick me with the last pick ya bum
Darrell: last = best of course
what, if anything, is banned?
me: well at least i'm glad we banned dutch
dutch and fin
4:00 PM Darrell: hmm
me: and glh and colossus
Darrell: must be a water map
toroidal?
prince?
me: tiny lakes
4:01 PM Darrell: liar
really?
why ban glh and colossus?
me: maybe tiny islands?
Darrell: oh
that makes more sense
hmm
me: supposedly many small landmasses
sids also banne
Darrell: well the obvious civs are portugal (they suck) and vikings (they are pretty good)
and carthage
4:02 PM I'd probably go for carthage
me: too bad i have 5th pick
Darrell: yeah without FIN civs might go before leaders
I'm trying to decide how useful EXP is
4:04 PM tiny islands is for sure the setting?
me: something like that
it's in the thread
Darrell: Like I'm going to read that
I'll just wait for plako to post the map
4:05 PM But, the civs that start wtih fishing are america, english, greek, japan, native americans, portuguese, roman, spanish, viking
I think spanish could be interesting
4:06 PM oh I left out carthage
I'd rate them viking, carthage, portuguese, spanish, america
although I'm not sure on that
4:07 PM traits...hmm
CRE, PHI, SPI feel pretty good
IMP
CHA
maybe
ING
IND
4:08 PM de gaulle is an interesting choice
if its toroidal/emperor I like ORG too
the half cost buildings are nice
Actually EXP is still pretty good even with less workers
4:09 PM me:
5 players
Prince Difficulty
Tiny Islands script (with maybe room for 4-5 cities on the starting continents), basically whatever makes a zillion islands.
Toroidal, with map-size set as Large (not actually a massive map needed, just hacked Large to reduce maintenance).
Darrell: tiny islands gives 1-2 cities for the starting continent
maybe 3, if you cram or get lucky
Fishing is not an optional starting tech probably
4:10 PM I think ORG is probably mediocre with those settings, even with the cheap lighthouse
IND is really good thouigh
4:11 PM sling metal casting for trieremes and cheap forges
couple it with SPI, CHA or IMP maybe?
4:13 PM I bet before it gets to you that portugal, carthage and vikings are gone
me: yeah
probably
4:14 PM Darrell: for tiny islands and no FIN, Feitoria is really quite good
despite being 120H
me: anything 1/2 price it?
Darrell: no
me: jerk sid
Darrell: The carrack is of dubious value because the islands are so close to each other you can hop
4:15 PM but it won't exactly hurt
4:16 PM there is a huge drop from the 3rd to 4th civ
I bet the first three are civs
which means you'll get one of the top 2 leaders
whoever the heck they are

[regoarrarr]

That isn't actual content.

Its just a list of what you can't and can do.

You really are an expert spammer!

Good point. I think I actually meant that to be an actual content post, and had it half typed up, but then I got called away at work, and then I got distracted, and just hit send.