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[SPOILERS] Balseraphs: A Guide to Mis-Management (by Kyan and TT)

Yeah, that's why I'm stockpiling skeles to throw at that Goblin camp. I'm hoping I can get 3 adepts up to mages from that, killing an archer, a goblin and 1XP from exploring the camp, enough to get a 9XP adept up.
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Make sure you give the adept exploring the lair a couple promotions first, or he could "never return" from the lair (only happens to level 0 units).
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Every adept has Mobility asap, but thanks for the heads up. Didn't know that...
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I asked Rawkking for his air mana, which he has to give due to the NAP. He refused citing 10 turns notice (which I can't exactly abide by having picked the game up...4 turns ago? 5?) And then requested 2 death mana as my side of the deal.

Unfortunately, the deal was for palaca mana as I recall...

Quote:Hello,

You seem to have requested air mana this turn, I have currently
refused it as we haven't discussed this mana trade in advance (I am
obligated to provide a loan within ten turns notice, of course). In
addition to the trade, I'd like to resolve the Hippus side of the deal
as well. Can you provide the Hippus with two death mana? I'd like to
start actually pumping some adepts.

I should be available to chat around 3 PM EST onwards if you want to
chat a bit, unfortunately going to be at in internship in the early
morning for me, late afternoon for you.

Quote:Unfortunately I can't provide you with the death mana as the deal was for palace mana only. Specifically mind mana as one source. At least, that's what I can tell from the posts in the thread, I don't have access to Kyans' Gmail account. I can provide you with the mind mana if you want, with an additional air or chaos mana. And the mind mana is 20 turns notice.

While I see your point about the 10 turns notice, please remember I've had the game for 5 turns...

Krill
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This is why I interpreted it as palace mana only...things get rather retarded if you want to interpret the deal as "I can order any mana I want from you and you have to give it to me".

Rawkking Wrote:I've got this in my archives as the final draft for the agreement for
parts concerning mana.

"-Balseraphs, with at least ten turns notice, must be willing to lend
two mana types (of hippus choosing) to to the Hippus if at all
possible, except that mind mana must have twenty turns notice to be
guaranteed access.
-The Hippus must, with at least ten turns notice, be willing to lend
two mana types (of Balseraph choosing) to the Balseraphs if at all
possible."

I don't see palace mana only mentioned there, unfortunately. Many many
turns ago I even told Kyan that earth mana from standing stones would
be available to him as a possible exchange according to our deal and
he didn't correct me on it being palace mana only at that point.

I feel bad that you have not had kyan's guidance on diplo agreements
for the past five turns but unfortunately I don't think I can be
lenient in this case.

Rawkking Wrote:Actually an even earlier draft has sun mana (from the mirror)
explicitly offered so it doesn't really seem like it was ever intended
to be a "palace mana only" deal.

Krill Wrote:Well, if that is the way you want to play it, I'd like 2 sources of death mana from you then, with 10 turns notice.
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That is pretty funny. Who is first in the turn order?

Darrell
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He is. He plays first in the turn, and I play last.
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Quote:Well, if that is the way you want to play it, I'd like 2 sources of death mana from you then, with 10 turns notice.

lol
I have to run.
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Krill Wrote:He is. He plays first in the turn, and I play last.

So did he ask for yours one turn before you asked for his?

Darrell
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He asked for them during his t128, I asked him for them during his t128. TBH though I think I'm going to ask everyone if they just want to call the game after I play t130, because everyone I've spoken to has said they'd like to just conceed the game.

Also, this is what this game feels like atm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSeSTI272LM
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