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Technically the patch was last night, the servers are being patched at 0200 local time.
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(December 4th, 2012, 04:44)Krill Wrote: Technically the patch was last night, the servers are being patched at 0200 local time.

That's true. 0200 local time is 6 minutes from now, and they expect downtime of six hours. So 0800 local, 4pm UK, which is two hours before I get out of work, which is perfect to compensate for the inevitable two-hour Riot delay dancing
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(December 4th, 2012, 04:40)v8mark Wrote: OMG the patch is coming tonight OMG OMG OMG I'm soooooo very very excited OMG OMG I can play when I get home yaaaaaaay

dancing dancing dancing

I expect a big crowd!

Yeah. I sure am gonna be curious of what the players' item builds are gonna be like when it comes live. popcorn
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Server is up.
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This interests me:

"Gold premiums on Tier 3 items have generally been reduced across the board. This means that the deeper the build tree - generally the less statistics the item gives or the more expensive it will be compared to before."


I take that to mean that you should no longer rush things like IE & PD, and instead should buy a BF sword, Zeal, and other Tier 1 and Tier 2 items to fill up your entire six items before upgrading, since you get more bang for your buck in the lower tiers. Thoughts?
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Yes, that's broadly correct, but it's not a big shift. Previously, there was a significant stats premium for big items, which meant that it was always most cost-efficient to rush a big item, assuming the stats were what you needed. Now it's a little more balanced towards the smaller items, but nowhere near to the extent that it is in DotA (just as an example from DotA, an Iron Branch, which gives +1 to all attributes, costs 53 gold, while an Ultimate Orb, which gives +10 to all attributes, costs 2100 gold).
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Basically it nudges things slightly towards actually utilizing all your slots when possible.

You still want to rush end-game items 'cause they usually give some extra benefit. But from a pure stats perspective you can dawdle and pick up more tier2 items first.

Perhaps BF, Zeal, BT/IE instead of straight BT/IE rush.
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The reduction of Tier 3 efficiency is designed to reduce snowballing during the laning phase by lowering the power differential of early Tier 3 rushes.

Along that line, the change to kill/death streak gold values is going to be one of the biggest changes in the game. Farming champions for gold is less useful and ganking losing lanes looks a lot more desirable. Getting the snowball balance right is one of the hardest things to balance - I'm worried they've gone too far but time will tell.
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From the changes I saw, it seems jungle farming is more lucrative, and for laners, you better make sure you last hit every siege minion.
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Where does everyone go for discussion about LoL?

And who has the best videos or guides on fundamental stuff like positioning for duo bot support, or fastest way to clear a jungle with a specific champ etc.
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