The Dark arts - C&D Master Thread

[kjn]

I've entered the raw numbers, but no more than that.

[waterbat]

apparently i just broke aptmod by logging in. i swear i didnt do anything nefarious!

[NobleHelium]

So does the mod website give you the values for cities not yet defogged too? The game only shows defogged cities.

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apparently i just broke aptmod by logging in. i swear i didnt do anything nefarious!

you probably forgot to log out for 8 hours and overworked it

[kjn]

So does the mod website give you the values for cities not yet defogged too? The game only shows defogged cities.

Only the name and the costs of civ-wide effects for them.

[kjn]

CivPlayers performed a 5->4 whip in one of their cities before ending turn, bringing their total pop to 22.

Demos:

The interesting thing about these demos is the development of the rival best approval rate:

Turn state	Best approval
T87 pre-revolt	60
T87 post-revolt	64
T88 start	64
T88 post-whip	63

Based on this I think we can confirm CivPlayers as the current rival best in approval rate. I can also tell the total number of happy that CivPlayers has access to: 35 before HR and 41 after.

This breaks down as follows:

Happy in capital: 1
Happy in each city: 4 in 6 cities, total 24
HR unit happy: 6 (probably 1 in 6 cities each)
Gold: 6
Unknown: 4

The unknown I assume is state religion, ie Buddhism in 4 cities. Ie, CivPlayers hasn't managed to claim any additional happy resources part from their nearby gold.

[kjn]

I'm going to be away from Civ today and tomorrow, so will need to depend on others for the C&D data when the turn rolls tonight.

[waterbat]

Was online to see the turn roll, so figured i get pre-and-post turn demos. Was interrupted by someone soliciting for donations at my front door, so I didnt get to grab pre-turn top 5 cities or pre-turn victory info.

The only thing in the log is: Forbidden Fruit Expands borders. We got a peak up there in our territory, so gives us some vision on the oh-so-interesting jungle up there.

Heres what we got:

[kjn]

T89 - 650 BC

Cliff's Notes: Apolyton grew 2 pop, up to 27 26. CivFr grew 3 pop, up to 34. CivPlayers received 5 land points and grew 1 pop, up to 23. CFC grew 3 pop, up to 32.

Demos:

First, thanks to Waterbat for the demos and extra stuff. But there's no need to include last turns numbers as well, it's extra work and I just get confused about which set to use.

First order of the new turn is to work out which team received the 5 land points (circa) for 8 tiles on T69. After some analysis I'm quite certain that it's CivPlayers. APTmod data for CFC leads me to believe that Terasvin expanded borders on T70 or T71, not T69. However, when looking at the rival best approval it hasn't changed from last turn, and 3 new pop would in all certainty make a major impact there. Also, CivPlayers Oracled Code of Laws and founded Confucianism on T67, which fits neatly with a Holy City popping second-ring borders two turns later. I should have been able to work that out on T69, really.

F8 analysis tells us there were 9 new rival pop, and they all fit neatly into the score increases. Apolyton grew 2 pop, up to 27 26. CivFr grew their capital to 10, a city to size 6, and another to size 3, and they have a total of 34 pop. CivPlayers grew 1 pop, up to 23. CFC grew 3 pop, up to 32. I believe it's CFC that has passed us in the geometrical population.

Rival global power rose with 34000 Of that, 5000 comes from pop (1000 to Apolyton and 2000 each to CivFr and CFC), leaving 29000 to units and buildings. The APTmod web site is currently down, so we don't know yet how big a bite of that that WPC and CFC picked up, but rival worst in power also rose with at least 3000. If APTmod isn't up relatively soon, I'll have to use the T90 graphs to check that. The rival best (Germany) power didn't change.

Changed: Apolyton pop numbers.

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what crazy graphics mod are you using waterbat?

so pretty