Diplomacy Master Thread- Helping Your Opponents Beat Themselves

[NobleHelium]

I lost track and it isn't in the master diplo thread. What did we sent cfc and when?

We may want to poke them again.

I went back to the diplo e-mail account, and we must've forgot to send the message about us due to settle the oasis area - it was discussed a lot, but then the turns sped up and we get a whole slew of new contacts and the minor crisis with CivPlayers.

I'm not sure if Scooter sent something less formal about it, when discussing directions to CivPlayers.

Er, really? This could be a bit of a problem.

[Sian]

well ... should be easily written off as noting that they said soon some 30 turns ago, and completely ignored expanding westwards, while we've expanded fairly organicly around the capital and gotten to there now

[scooter]

ARGH. Yes, somehow it never sent. I could have sworn I sent it. I just now passed them off the message - here is what I sent:

Ok I have an apology to make - I thought I sent you guys this message on the 6th, and I just now noticed it was still in our drafts . I'm really, really sorry about this! Anyways, here is the full message I thought I had sent:

Caledorn,

Thanks again for directions, and I'm glad we were able to finally be a help to you in return. I think it's been a big boost for both of us. Let me know how things go once you meet CivPlayers. They may be a very small team, but they still seem to be doing quite well in this game.

As a courtesy, I wanted to inform you that we will be settling our final border city in your direction pretty soon.

Thanks!
scooter - Team RB

[scooter]

I'm going to chat with Caledorn too to try to make sure we're good.

[scooter]

Chat with Caledorn:

scooter: hey caledorn
just sent you guys a message. someone on our team just pointed out that it never sent, blah
Caledorn: heya! I've actually been looking for you today
great - thanks - I'll look into it right away .. hold on
scooter: yeah. it was bad timing. wednesday-friday were insane for work - late nights and all that
and it just got missed somehow
Caledorn: this is excellent
we have workers who we wish to use to build a road to connect our empires together so we can get traderoutes up and running
scooter: that "final city in your direction" has obviously been settled already, which is why I felt bad about you not getting the message before-hand.
sounds great
yeah, I think we can both make a lot of money off trade routes
Caledorn: ah, so the city you have founded .. er .. B-something isn't it? .. that's the last one you intend to settle in our direction then?
scooter: right
it's called Starfall i believe
Caledorn: I'm just looking for a screenshot here
just so I know we're talking about the same city
scooter: yeah no problem
Caledorn: according to this screenshot the newest city I can see that you guys have settled near us, is located slightly to the northeast of the oasis/stone - approximately 4 tiles north and 1 tile east of the stone if I read the cultural border I can see correct?
scooter: oh no, that's an old barbarian city we captured
we just settled one 1S of the oasis
Caledorn: ah - that means our road plans will be different than the one I meant to propose
scooter: ah okay
should still be pretty easy to road up. not that far of a distance
Caledorn: yeah, it's easier actually
as we intended to road up to the city by the northern lake
how soon will you have the new city roaded up to your main road network (if you already haven't, which I almost assume you have) ?
this way we can just road over to that city in a straight line
scooter: ah I see. maybe this will be shorter?
let me check on that
well
it is on our main road network already
Caledorn: 1 tile less to road to the new city is it is 1S of the oasis yes
according to what I can see at least
scooter: yeah that's the spot.
should be able to get roads quickly then
Caledorn: yeah, just a few turns for that
if you have any workers in the area that could help out with roading a few tiles from your direction, that would be great too
scooter: yeah, i'm going to check on that with my team, but I think we do
Caledorn: the sooner we get trade routes up, the better for both of us
scooter: yep, agreed!
alright, I need to get going and do a few things. but let me know if you need anything more
Caledorn: <snip a few personal things>
thanks for letting me know about the email - and if you could get back to me if you guys can help with the roads, that would be great too

[Ceiliazul]

Scooter for Secretary of State!

[antisocialmunky]

Contingent on the road not being used to invade us immediately.

[Bigger]

well thats a nice response.

Scooter: so sorry I didn't tell you about our new city (secretly afraid its going to piss CFC off and lose us a friend)
Calendorn: oh thats such good news, we're so glad you founded that city now we can get trade routes quicker



lmao

[kjn]

Scooter - next time you get in touch with Univers, you might want to open up the question of OBs, primarily for trade routes and secondarily for getting our scout past their lands to meet Apolyton and CivFr quicker.

Univers and CFC likely already has a trade connection via that river that our scout followed northwards, and once the Starfall-Astan road is finished, we should get a possible route to Univers as well.

[Bigger]

Scooter - next time you get in touch with Univers, you might want to open up the question of OBs, primarily for trade routes and secondarily for getting our scout past their lands to meet Apolyton and CivFr quicker.

Univers and CFC likely already has a trade connection via that river that our scout followed northwards, and once the Starfall-Astan road is finished, we should get a possible route to Univers as well.

which means we definitely will not need trade routes with CivPlayers, right? So we can focus our diplomacy there one the NAP and a border agreement, and probably just let them know our trade routes are full, so an open borders agreement would just benefit them.