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Diplomacy Master Thread- Helping Your Opponents Beat Themselves

Okay...so you were saying we are in OR then? Yeah. Why do you think that they think we can't build missionaries? Their statement doesn't say that.
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(March 11th, 2013, 22:01)NobleHelium Wrote: Okay...so you were saying we are in OR then? Yeah. Why do you think that they think we can't build missionaries? Their statement doesn't say that.

oic, I read it as "if you should happen to develop meditation one day" instead "if we should." ok so meditation is a more achievable goal for them that monotheism, but still requires them to build monasteries on top of the tech. they aren't spreading any religion quickly.
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I was kidding. Mostly. If we're going to give them a religion, we should scout with the missionary. We aren't blanketing their territory with military units, so every unit that can uncover a tile is helpful. Two birds, one stone.
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Wow, this discussion veered off into a strange place quickly...

1) We have a chariot that moved into German territory this turn to scout.

2) The Germans are not running Organized Religion civic, and almost certainly do not have Monotheism tech.

3) There is little benefit to us and potentially a great deal of harm from concocting some sort of fake alliance plan with the Germans. I would strongly advise not going down this route.

I genuinely don't see this offer as holding out anything we would want. I think a polite refusal is the best course of action. Any foreign missionaries we would build are better off going to WPC.
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C'mon, give them one missionary at least. If they spend hammers on monasteries and missionaries to spread it themselves, that's fewer spears we have to worry about.

But agree with no fake cooperation with the Germans. We'll be explicitly self-serving with the people we intend to invade.
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I agree. Sending a missionary or two might not be a bad idea. The Germans will probably approach CivPlayers if we turn them down. Better Hinduism than AP Buddhism in cities we intend to capture. Besides, accepting one proposal is far less suspicious than rejecting all three.
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Azoth makes a great point, it would be annoying for them to adopt Buddhism.
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Agreed wholeheartedly with Azoth.
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yeah, Azoth persuaded me too.
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I agree with Azoth. It also gives us an excuse to send another missionary to scout them out before we send our invasion stack.

"We see you guys haven't managed to spread our religion around very much. We have a spare missionary because we got a free spread to one of our cities, did you want it?"

Run it through their civ scouting their unit deployments, convert some random city, invade?
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