Diplomacy Master Thread- Helping Your Opponents Beat Themselves

[DaveV]

Agreed, that all sounds really good, scooter.

[Sullla]

I am always in favor of securing as much map information as possible. CFC has already scouted us out more or less completely, which means that our maps will be trickling around to everyone else eventually. We may as well try and get the low down on everyone else who's willing to trade in return.

[kjn]

Go ahead, scooter - I think your outline is quite good.

[scooter]

Quick and simple chat with Caledorn:

scooter: hey! long time no talk. We just got paper in the ISDG, you guys interested in a map swap?
figure we've mostly seen each other's land already, so might be cool for both of us to get some extra info
Caledorn: heya I'm on the phone right now .. be with you asap
scooter: ok no prob!
Caledorn: there we go
Caledorn: I have to ask the team about that before I give you a definite response - but I will post it on the forums right away and I should have a response for you within a day or two
scooter: ok great, thanks!
yeah just let me know whenever you've got an idea of how they feel.
Caledorn: I will - you're around on GTalk around the usual times yes?
scooter: yep, should be! if you don't see me around you can always just shoot me a quick email as those come in on my phone
Caledorn: great I'll get back to you as soon as I have a response
scooter: thanks!

[scooter]

Here is one single draft for CivFr and UniversCiv:

CivFr, [or UniversCiv]

Wanted to pop in and say hey and see how you guys are doing. We haven't really had many dealings so far given how far away from each other we are, but we were hoping we could start to change that as the world is beginning to feel "smaller" . Are you guys interested in a map trade for starters? We're both quite far from each other, so between the two of us, we could probably uncover most of the map. Let me know how that sounds!

Thanks,
scooter - Team RB

If nobody objects, I'll send that in a bit to both of them.

[SevenSpirits]

Regarding the CP missionary: If they didn't care about keeping us happy and really wanted to spread the religion to us, they could easily have double-moved the missionary into our city and spread it before we could object or close borders. Instead they moved the missionary into our view at the start of the turn, leading to our reaction. The idea that they are now lying to us is therefore ludicrous to me.

It sure seems likely that the missionary is headed for the german city. It's possible they were planning to move through our territory, like we moved through theirs, in order to get there faster via roads and de-jungled tiles. From their message I take it that they aren't going to do that now, though. (And in any case, I think we'd actually be OK with them moving through there this one time, sort of as compensation for us breaking the agreement earlier.)

We should clearly re-open borders with them.

Edit: My personal preference would be to send a quick message back to civplayers saying they can send the missionary north through our lands if they like, as a kind gesture and to lessen their ability to hold our own minor breaches against us later.

[novice]

We should clearly re-open borders with them.

Edit: My personal preference would be to send a quick message back to civplayers saying they can send the missionary north through our lands if they like, as a kind gesture and to lessen their ability to hold our own minor breaches against us later.

That sounds like a good idea.

[kjn]

Agree with Seven (sensible as usual) on CivPlayers, and the draft to CivFr and Univers looks good.

[NobleHelium]

thats not the only benefit of liberalism. its a prer-req for many important techs, and unlocks 2 civic choices that will surely end up using eventually with our cottage economy.

Liberalism is the prereq for exactly one tech. Communism. Communism does not lead to any other techs.

[Tyrmith]

But is an important tech for us, no?