Diplomacy Master Thread- Helping Your Opponents Beat Themselves

[sooooo]

We certainly should send them a polite "its nothing personal" e-mail when we declare war. Surely Germans will understand a bit of Realpolitik .

Darrell

How about:

Sorry Germans, its nothing personal but it was the turn timers.

Sounds Plausible.

Er, no. That's obviously not the main reason we are attacking them and is dishonest. The germans rarely end turn last nowadays anyway.

[NobleHelium]

ASM's posts are jokes 95% of the time.

[SevenSpirits]

There is some truth in it. Back in the german - WPC conflict we favored the WPC side mostly because they played promptly. Along with other factors this led to us agreeing to side more forcefully with WPC in the future.

[Lord Parkin]

From UniversCiv:

Hi,
Thanks for your proposal! Unfortunately, we aren't interested in open borders at the moment.

Yuufo

[antisocialmunky]

Er, no. That's obviously not the main reason we are attacking them and is dishonest. The germans rarely end turn last nowadays anyway.

I'll never understand how it is that some of you guys seem to have forgiven the German team dragging turns out to 3+ days (of your real life) while wanting to Leeroy Jenkins the CFC Diplomacy. By pages of the Rant thread, that was a much bigger deal than CFC Marble BS.

PS. Are we or WPC going to initiate the war declaration? It might impact perception on whether or not the world sees us as passive opportunists or active warmongers. We might want to consistently say something along the lines of "WPC asked us to help" when people come along and ask us about the war. It might keep the neighbor less on edge and delay any CoW by a little bit. Every little bit helps.

Edit to remove quote pyramid.

[Merovech]

We certainly should send them a polite "its nothing personal" e-mail when we declare war. Surely Germans will understand a bit of Realpolitik .

Darrell

How about:

Sorry Germans, its nothing personal but it was the turn timers.

Sounds Plausible.

Er, no. That's obviously not the main reason we are attacking them and is dishonest. The germans rarely end turn last nowadays anyway.

I'll never understand how it is that some of you guys seem to have forgiven the German team dragging turns out to 3+ days (of your real life) while wanting to Leeroy Jenkins the CFC Diplomacy. By pages of the Rant thread, that was a much bigger deal than CFC Marble BS.

PS. Are we or WPC going to initiate the war declaration? It might impact perception on whether or not the world sees us as passive opportunists or active warmongers. We might want to consistently say something along the lines of "WPC asked us to help" when people come along and ask us about the war. It might keep the neighbor less on edge and delay any CoW by a little bit. Every little bit helps.

I'm guessing recency bias + confirmation bias. Also, CFC simply matters more in this game and we have more contact with them in general. IMO, it's more annoying for a neighbor to act callously then for a stranger to do so. At least, that's why I'm more annoyed with CFC.

[NobleHelium]

Well I hate CFC. I was merely annoyed by the Germans.

[kalin]

I was thinking that if we NAP with WPC, we should consider a mutual defense pact of sorts. My thinking is that we won't want CFC taking WPC. The Spanish are clearly a more clear target for CFC, but if we NAP CFC then they could attack WPC and there may be nothing we could do. Something to keep in mind when discussing a NAP with CFC. WPC would not amount much to anything, but could serve as a buffer and a distraction in case of war.

Kalin

[scooter]

CFC and WPC don't really have a shared border at this point. Can't imagine CFC would invade WPC before a better target like Spanish Apolyton.

[kalin]

CFC and WPC don't have borders touching but they are adjacent... The reason for them attacking WPC would be to stop us from doing it. While it's probably unlikely, I would still want to ask if we should consider protecting WPC at least for some time if we can.

Kalin