WW25 - Game Thread

[zakalwe]

Rowain



zakalwe novice

What did you mean by this post, Brick? You left it out of the translations you were doing earlier.

[novice]

BRick

[Jkaen]

Post re-review 0-100

I'll go with Rowain, for saying that MJW may drag us down.

Found this and the line of conversation that follows it odd, and MJW is well known for his crazyness, hence I think its something reasonable for Rowain (proven village) to say, suspicion that zak was testing the water against him?

Anyone else having trouble with the forum lagging?

Anyway, MJW because I find his reason for voting Brick very contrived. Makes it feel that either he's trying too hard to have a justification for the vote, or he has inside info on the sanity mechanics which is more likely to come from a wolf as they have multiple team members sharing info.

Zak, to clarify, are you voting for SC because you agree with Q?

Dont like this and commented it at the time, vote for the most mislynchable candidate (villager) for reasons that I dont think hold water at all, given bricks posts it was a perfectly reasonable assumption to jump to and MJW always just says what he thinks

[Jkaen]

Post review 101 - 200

And later indicated that he can post once sanity level wents up or down (here)

Ok not all those images loaded the first time... I see where that interpretation comes from now. Hmm.

unvote for now

Absolutely no idea what BRick's last post is supposed to mean, maybe i'm just bad at this picture interpretation.

Azza: if there are sanity-triggered abilities such as "if sanity >= 40 this power doesn't work" then a wolf is 4x more likely to know about the details of one

Uberfish now tries to back out of his earlier argument against Jowy, not sure if I buy his excuse though

Azza: if there are sanity-triggered abilities such as "if sanity >= 40 this power doesn't work" then a wolf is 4x more likely to know about the details of one

Oh right, that makes sense. Forgot scum can have power roles too.

I cant believe this wasnt picked up before as it seems a huge wolf tell now I look at it with hindsight

Simply based on my takes on MJW playstyle. He's less crazy when he's a wolf, rather, his craziness seems more contrived, like it's fake. Besides, he spells the names correctly more frequently when he's a wolf. Finally, I find him explaining his plays and taking longer to answer things as out of village character.

Sum it all up and I think there's a very high chance he's a wolf.

I think this was reaching for a reason to lynch MJW, which MJW does later address but doesnt affect the voting

Lynch tells, nothing strikes me as obvious. Q feels curt and I'm a relatively easy mislynch, so good to go after. On the otherhand my first post was apparently pretty baity based on the reactions of most.

I know its a instant reaction to go after someone you feel attacking you, but I don't like this post. Firstly, I'm not really going after you as you claim, a simple post saying a reason I found you suspicious is nothing more then half the players have at this point. Therefore it seems to me that you're simply attacking people voting you at this point, which is an easy move to get away with because you can claim emotional reaction. In the process you are dismissing the vote by saying that you're easy to go after, while simultaneously excusing your suspicion against me by saying that it was a bait worthy post.
I'm not sure I've explained myself properly, but the summary is an attack without attacking, avoiding a confrontation while smearing my vote on you.

I don't want to kill Brick entirely because I'm enjoying his posts. Zak and you are sparring, leaves me fairly convinced that my vote for you has less of a point than it did in the first place.

Fluff, dismissing his earlier vote (though I still find the timing suspect). Is he saying he has town read on zak/Rowain? I can't tell.

Azza hasn't really said much.

A very easy on azza, no real explanation and maintaining that there's no suspicion (so he has no responsibility). Azza never says much, but you really do seem to be trying to fly under the radar.

Wel if nobody is really ringing, surely the best option is ringing up one of the guys with low post counts. It's not like we are particularly late in day one yet.

Why is the best option to dump a vote on someone who isn't going to post because of it (azza)? And someone who isn't going to be lynched today, who you have no suspicions on?

Slow doesn't say much in his other posts. Suffice to say, I think he's trying desperately to lurk and avoid confrontation.
slowcheetah

Seems to be putting up a defense for (the known ghoul) azza here

"so far" meaning one post

Let's see... my day in a nutshell: I confused MJW with MNG, and saw the same kind of squirming wolf that reminded me of my first game. Still voting for MJW, btw.

I pointed out that Lewwyn was wrong when he said Brick had violated his PR and voted for Brick for that reason. Yes, I did that with questions instead of stating "Brick didn't violate his PR"

I tried to get a handle on the Zak <-> Brick exchange, due to a misinterpreation of what Brick told Zak, to see if anything was there. Turns out I just misunderstood Brick's pictures. (Btw Zak - can you tell me what you thought that string of pictures I misunderstood meant? I'd ask Brick, but... well, Brick, if you can think of a different way to explain that would be nice too.)

And then when I suggested slowcheetah was trying a bit too hard to act helpful, he attacks me

Right now I want to stay on MJW because regardless of my mixup, I still want to hear him tlak and not see him disappear after a few votes go on him. I'm pretty trusting of Brick so far, and by extension that means Zak now too. Slowcheetah I think looks more scummy than not so far. And I would like to dig into the Jowy posts and see what others have noticed there. But tomorrow, after I've slept off this bug a bit (and I feel like it's on the mend, finally -- damn thing's been with me since Monday).

There ya go, Day 1 from me so far. You'll have to forgive me for not finding any obvwolves yet.

I dont understand that after his argument it seems it taken apart, why keep your vote on MJW?

[Jkaen]

Hmm seems I now suspect zak, uber, ichabod, Qgq and pind all about equally.

That wasn't the revelation I was hoping for, fingers crossed when I get another break the next batch will reveal more

[Gazglum]

Lewwyn you've claimed a vig role, and I remember you saying you thought there might be another one. from what you know of your role, do you think it's possible there could be a second town aligned vigilante?

[Gazglum]

Hmm seems I now suspect zak, uber, ichabod, Qgq and pind all about equally.

That wasn't the revelation I was hoping for, fingers crossed when I get another break the next batch will reveal more

You know that Ichabod is now dead, right?

[uberfish]

Brick: wtf, just wtf. The worst thing is I pegged you as the sort of player who wouldn't go around faking post restrictions. What I find suspicious is not so much that you faked up the post restriction. But rather that you claimed a sanity trigger for removing it, thus implying that sanity decrease would have positive (or at least, not all negative) consequences for the village and encouraging everyone to lower the sanity so that you, one of the heaviest posters, could talk properly.

I mean I can sympathize with you wanting to do something different. Literally every game where I'm village I get attacked because my play is supposedly incompatible with what I'd do as village and it's gotten very annoying.

However I want to know why you claimed this sanity trigger.

[uberfish]

Point of the above is that misleading the village on the consequences of an unknown game mechanic (sanity) is anti-town.

[Jkaen]

Hmm seems I now suspect zak, uber, ichabod, Qgq and pind all about equally.

That wasn't the revelation I was hoping for, fingers crossed when I get another break the next batch will reveal more

You know that Ichabod is now dead, right?

Sorry was just using the 1st post as my guideline while I was writing this, and his death isnt marked there yet