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WW25 - Game Thread

(July 1st, 2013, 01:59)Jowy Wrote: pindicator, did brick know you would target gazglum?

Nope, I had no way to know that and he didn't drop any clues in thread I could see.
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(July 1st, 2013, 02:18)Jkaen Wrote: Well I still am thinking one of the vig people are lying

Jkaen (3) - Gazglum, Pindicator, Qg,
Brick (3) - Jowy, Zak, Jkaen,
Gazglum (2) - Lewwyn, uberfish,

No vote - Brick, Mattimeo,

Given bricks power seems far too strong for a late game, and from dodgy posts like 1063, I will go there (above tally reflects Brick)

"Dodgy" post quoted below.

(June 30th, 2013, 22:41)BRickAstley Wrote:
(June 30th, 2013, 20:24)pindicator Wrote: My ability does not jail, it only interrupts

So if someone else out there possibly prevented a kill then they probabiy should speak up.

Lewwyn?
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Here's a thought: What if Pindicator is a wolf? No kill on purpose to drive in an easy and guiltless mislynch?

Sorry I've been sparse, but it's been a crazy weekend. I will be able to devote full attention about 4 hours before deadline, and hopefully some before that, though I do need to sleep at some point.

I'm not exactly sure how I'm being dodgy here? I saw Gazglum's claim and withdrew my vote so I could think about it, since if he's the seer that's a bad deal. Then I offered up another possibility to what's going on here, since people have been fixating on specific interpretations of the current meta, and that's not good. And then I explained why I've not been around. What am I dodging? I'll answer any question you ask of me, and I'm fairly certain I didn't miss one.
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Just a minor tell hence why i didnt go into deail, seems a throw away 'what if they decided to no kill' with no follow up discussion or review of likelyhood or anything else.

The main issue I have is that your power just seems too strong
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(July 1st, 2013, 08:44)Jkaen Wrote: Just a minor tell hence why i didnt go into deail, seems a throw away 'what if they decided to no kill' with no follow up discussion or review of likelyhood or anything else.

The main issue I have is that your power just seems too strong

Well it's cause I haven't been around, I've been asleep. And too strong? A 2 shot vig is too strong? I'm not really seeing where that's making sense.
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When have we ever in any game had a multiple shot vig?

I certainly dont remember one (at least on the village side, not say a SK)

Plus leaving it till end game when the power is stronger is not really much of a hindrance
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(July 1st, 2013, 07:44)Jkaen Wrote: I am not sure I buy the SK angle, wouldnt that mean we were missing about 3 more kills from this game?

He's claimed that his killing powers activated when sanity drops low enough. I believe this is true but that he's an anti-town killer.
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Just trying to get my head around the sanity mechanics. Do we have any evidience at all other then when Brick was lying about his PR that it is possible for it to increase?

Start = 20
Mislynch = ?
Night villager and ghoul kill = 18
Mislynch = ?
Night villager kill = 13
Ghoul lynch = ?
No kill = 13

Missing ubers scans from this as the only other known source of sanity change. Anybody have any light to shed on it?
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(July 1st, 2013, 08:58)uberfish Wrote:
(July 1st, 2013, 07:44)Jkaen Wrote: I am not sure I buy the SK angle, wouldnt that mean we were missing about 3 more kills from this game?

He's claimed that his killing powers activated when sanity drops low enough. I believe this is true but that he's an anti-town killer.

See this I don't believe is viable.

It seems the sanity drops when the town is doing badly (see first two nights) and when we do well it didnt drop (day / night 3)

Hence if sanity is low scum are winning, therefore why would you give scum a vig kill when they are winning anyway, that just accelerates the win rather than add a balancing mechanism which bricks way does.

If he had said 1 kill I may have bought it but two...
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we already know brick crazy enough to pull off a stunt like wolf no-kill, because of fake PR. that raise brick scum odds in my eyes.
we also know brick only one who knew of pindicator ability at that time.
i think it's simple. gazglum
and if gaz is villager, we know only explanation for no-kill night 3 is that brick is wolf.
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I hope I dont regret this but I have convinced myself the missing night kill (and the only reason we have for it other than purposly missing a kill) is a bigger question mark than me not trusting brick

Gazglum
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