November 20th, 2014, 17:06
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Yay for another chance to see blood. Hopefully they report.
I'll post the map here for feedback when I get around to making it. Next week is all vacation, that ought to give me the time.
And, since I went to random.org and haven't gotten an answer as to whether they want it yet:
Civ/leader options:
Commodore:
Inca
Rome
Celts
Victoria
Charlemagne
Darius I
Yuris
Zulu
Arabia
Ethiopia
Suryavarman
Suleiman
Gilgamesh
Thoth:
Mongolia
Maya
Holy Roman Empire
Huayna Capac
Alexander
Julius Caesar
Wetbandit:
Babylon
Korea
India
Isabella
Genghis Khan
Tokugawa
Looks like everyone's got a mobility enhanced UU option, if they choose to take it.
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November 20th, 2014, 17:15
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And I've already got my first moment of crippling doubt. Do I reroll?
(November 20th, 2014, 17:13)wetbandit Wrote: Lush Highlands: 37% hills
Likelihood of drawing Celts:
wetbandit: 1%
Thoth: 1%
yuris: 1%
Commodore: 100% 97%
Edit. No. I know that I did it fairly, even if it did turn out awfully convenient. And besides, it's not like India's a bad option.
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November 20th, 2014, 17:52
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Turning down imp\pro Inca is hard though...
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November 28th, 2014, 07:33
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I think these are honestly the best starts I have ever seen ...
November 28th, 2014, 08:29
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From a quick glance, I think Thoth start is worse than the others.
November 28th, 2014, 21:48
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a comparison of the starts:
wetbandit: 13 rivered tiles, 9 forests, 2 floodplains, 5 bare hills, 10 total hills, two 6f food tiles, bare ph gems, forested sugar 1st ring
thoth: 10 rivered tiles (not counting the lakes), 12 forests, 1 floodplain, 3 bare hills, 9 total hills, 2 lakes (?), 5f1h and 6f food tiles (no food is adjacent to capital here), forested plains hill gems, forested sugar 2nd ring
commodore: 15 rivered tiles, 11 forests, 1 floodplain, 3 bare hills, 9 total hills, 4f1h and 6f food tiles, bare grassland gems, forested sugar 2nd ring
yuris: 10 rivered tiles, 13 forests, 1 floodplain, 2 bare hills, 11 total hills, 4f1h and 6f food tiles, forested plains gems, forested sugar 1st ring
although I don't get why you'd create almost-but-not-quite mirrored starts, the biggest problems I see are the forested-vs-nonforested gems (the forest versions require bronze working to hook), the sugars being first ring in some cases but second ring in others (will affect first worker timing), commodore having way more rivered tiles than others, and the lakes at thoth's start. thoth's foods are also both 2nd ring and spread more widely apart from the others, meaning it'll take longer for his worker to hook them up. (he wastes an extra turn hooking up the first AND then the second)
thoth's start is definitely worse than the others.
November 28th, 2014, 21:50
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thoth also has no civ that starts with agriculture...
November 28th, 2014, 22:42
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That's not even mentioning that he has to waste 3 worker worker turns just hooking his two grains. Commodore for example doesn't have to waste any.
I mean, the starts are pretty close in power overall, but for being starts with mirrored resources they sure are disparate.
November 29th, 2014, 12:45
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Holy mother of God.
Are they playing on Normal speed? Because it sure as fuck isn't going to feel like it.
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November 30th, 2014, 01:17
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Toth start comapred to other is very bad.I know from my experience with pb 20(well there was evn worse).
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