RBP3 [SPOILERS] - Friendly Kittens (Ragnar of Maya)

[RefSteel]

Okay, so that was an eventful turn considering how little there was to do.

Following some e-mail exchanges, we had a consensus for 1S, so...



...uh, so, yeah. Now, it's a desert hill gold, but even so...

Oh, and I said it was eventful, right? So, this happened:



Guess I'll have to update my sandbox. That's 20 more hammers that just grew SW of our capital (30 if we wait for Mathematics before we clear-cut the area). Actually, there was another forest growth NW across the river from that one (they don't show up in the events log after the turn they occur) so that's two in our BFC in the first 4 turns. Think good thoughts about the grass hill 1S of the jungle tile. An unintended consequence of delaying that silver until ironworking is the threat that the JUNGLE can spread too!

Other notes: Okay, so remember my joke about Morgan's team showing up with all this great stuff, including a coastal fish? It'd have to be a LAKE fish (and if I cared, I could confirm or deny whether this is possible too) because Maniac was right again. When he saw our start, he predicted that everyone would have a landlocked start with a grain resource and an AH resource. The second bit we haven't confirmed, but it didn't take any number crunching to look at the Demo screen for the past couple of turns and see Rival Worst land area at 8K. I guess it's possible some Creative civ had a coastal start (I don't have a screenie of the demoscreen from T2 after the last player founded, so Rival Worst was zero during the turns when Cre borders wouldn't have popped) but otherwise, it's 9 land tiles or 8-and-a-lake for everybody.

They must be screaming bloody murder in Carthage and Portugal's threads. (Consolation: They do have the two most powerful leaders in the game!)

Also, my teammates both think T42 is way too late for our first settler to complete. Like I said, I'm new to actually playing this game, so I don't know these things. I'm going to start looking harder at going BW after Agri and building a settler at Size 3 (or even 2). 'Cause, you know, that 1-2 Floodplains + Grass Cow + Desert Gold + Fog As Yet Unrevealed site is looking kind of okay.

[RefSteel]

I think I'd still move SE next, and then consider what we see. Other opinions?

[Maniac Marshall]

I think I'd still move SE next, and then consider what we see. Other opinions?

[Cull]

SE is fine with me. Also, the cow, floodplain, gold is pobably goiing to be second city site.

[Wyrmsbane]

erm, random question because i am confused. You guys are actually ragnar of maya, not mali? your thread title is mis-leading.

[Maniac Marshall]

erm, random question because i am confused. You guys are actually ragnar of maya, not mali? your thread title is mis-leading.

[Sullla]

Are you so sure of that? Perhaps you should re-check your thread title again!

OK, more seriously, the forum software is a little weird here; if a moderator TRIPLE-CLICKS on a thread title really quickly, you can sometimes get a cursor to appear, and then edit the title. It doesn't work all the time either, but sometimes it does, and I was able to fix your thread. Very strange stuff.

[RefSteel]

Are you so sure of that? Perhaps you should re-check your thread title again!

OK, more seriously, the forum software is a little weird here; if a moderator TRIPLE-CLICKS on a thread title really quickly, you can sometimes get a cursor to appear, and then edit the title. It doesn't work all the time either, but sometimes it does, and I was able to fix your thread. Very strange stuff.

Thanks so much, Sullla! And yeah, that is definitely strange behavior by the forum software. No wonder I didn't figure it out! The original typo was my mistake. I ... uh ... misclicked while remoting in. (Actually rushing to create the thread before the place whose wireless network I was using closed for the day, if I remember correctly. The two-syllable names starting with Ma which are their own collective and adjective forms got muddled as I was typing ... and I'd been thinking about Rags of Mali because I was amused by the idea of a Mining/Wheel civ whose leader looked like a dwarf.)

ALSO: We've played the turn (we were almost last!) - borders popped, Yalara moved SE, I figured out what mapscript we're playing on while working on my sandbox even before I logged into the game(!) ... there's just a huge amount of data to process, and I haven't eaten yet today! I'll get an update up when I can.

Maniac, if you can play in 15-16 hours, that's great news. If you can't, don't worry about it; depending on Cull's schedule, we might be last to play (maybe even two turns in a row) but we'll make it.

[Maniac Marshall]

Thanks so much, Sullla! And yeah, that is definitely strange behavior by the forum software. No wonder I didn't figure it out! The original typo was my mistake. I ... uh ... misclicked while remoting in. (Actually rushing to create the thread before the place whose wireless network I was using closed for the day, if I remember correctly. The two-syllable names starting with Ma which are their own collective and adjective forms got muddled as I was typing ... and I'd been thinking about Rags of Mali because I was amused by the idea of a Mining/Wheel civ whose leader looked like a dwarf.)

ALSO: We've played the turn (we were almost last!) - borders popped, Yalara moved SE, I figured out what mapscript we're playing on while working on my sandbox even before I logged into the game(!) ... there's just a huge amount of data to process, and I haven't eaten yet today! I'll get an update up when I can.

Maniac, if you can play in 15-16 hours, that's great news. If you can't, don't worry about it; depending on Cull's schedule, we might be last to play (maybe even two turns in a row) but we'll make it.

[RefSteel]

Annnnnd away we go! First, you probably want to know what Yalara spotted when she moved SE. Welp...



You may recall my referring to a "cow/gold/1-2 floodplains" location. I was being silly of course; I could see at the time that it would actually have 2-3 fps, depending on where we planted it. Well, it turns out it's actually cow/gold/jungle-sugar/2-4 floodplains! Depending on what we see to the east, it might even be worth settling ON the sugar though, leaving the cow for another city. But Yalara wasn't our primary scout this turn. Our best fog-buster for T5 was our city!



Unlike the tactical map I posted upthread, this one's from the real game. This overview shot shows everything but a couple of desert hills and some tile bleeding in the extreme southwest (all visible in Yalara's picture anyway). We've got jungle dyes (are we getting the sense IW might be useful here?) 4S of Fierias, flanked by the expected floodplains (you knew I expected one in that spot, right?) and a desert hill, with another floodplains east of the hill tile. The other three "white dot" tiles, north to south, are two grasslands and a plains, with a forest on the middle one. The black dot tiles are, of course, still black, though tile bleeding now tells us a little about two more of them.

The little house isn't really visible in the picture, but we're now working the 2/1/1 sheep tile, still adding 3f/hpt to our worker but improving our tech rate slightly. So, that's what we know. I'll add the speculative stuff in my next post - might take me a little while, since I want a sandboxish screenie.