Gavagai manages his personal GULAG

[Bacchus]

It's Molach killing AT, according to CivStats. In other words, someone is finally teaching the Imperialistic crowd that Settlers aren't the only thing you need to build cities. I wonder if dtay who has a correspondingly pedagogical neighbour...

Molach's drop in power left us in the first spot on the demographics, with Grimace likely somewhere among the last, even if he has built 3 real units by now. From his graph it sort of looks like 1 axe and 2 chariots, which might be relevant for our own mix.

[Bacchus]

Tsargon is looking scary with MFG to match ours and a higher crop yield. Fortunately, he almost solely built Immortals. At the same time, Grimace has brought his gemstones online for a boost in GNP.

[Gavagai]

Attacking on T81 with 10 Axes, 3 Chariots, 1 Spear, 1 Shock Skirmisher.

Also, it looks like Barteq has the same plans...

[Gavagai]

I think since next turn we should avoid logging in before Grimace unless we are risking that timer running out. We want second half of the turn and it's important.

[Old Harry]

I'd suggest you ignore turn order now and just let him double-move you (if needed) on the turn you want to declare. Has the benefit of not tipping your hand and keeping the turn timer running smoothly. As long as he doesn't declare on you preemptively...

[Gavagai]

It should have taken Gromace a special effort to dotmap land that good that terribly. Borzoi has no first-ring food, unseen city 1S from Horse has no first ring food (and this Pigs to the north are still unpastured, so they are not claimed by another city). It almost looks like he settled his cities with screwing us up in mind.
Bacchus, do you think we can afford razing any of this shit?

[Gavagai]

I'd suggest you ignore turn order now and just let him double-move you (if needed) on the turn you want to declare. Has the benefit of not tipping your hand and keeping the turn timer running smoothly. As long as he doesn't declare on you preemptively...

That's what we'll do if we need that to keep the game running smoothly. I did similar thing to Bantams in PB16 and some lurkers frowned upon it. So, I want to be on the safe side if possible.

[GermanJoey]

Hey, at least the barbs settled a good city for you.

Against an active, consistent player, I think its wrong to try to "let" someone double-move you just so that you can claim a specific half of the timer. But, considering Grimace is last to play this turn and has missed turns before, I think its OK if there's no other alternative. If he plays this turn, its likely he'll play T78/T79 back-to-back, and then you're golden. If someone else has to log in for him in the morning, they'd only play T78 though.

[Old Harry]

Sounds like those lurkers didn't realise the rule is about double movement not turn order....

[GermanJoey]

Sounds like those lurkers didn't realise the rule is about double movement not turn order....

Well IMHO its a little bit of both. Double-movement is the most important thing to prevent, but its also annoying as hell to hold the game up just to try to get some kind of in-game advantage from the clock. These pitboss games can't work if people are playing clock games because most people have thigns to do. For example, I'm in Oregon and Gavagai is in Russia somewhere - that's an 11-12 hour time difference. Off the top of my head, there's also several Norweigan players (Molach and Caledorn?), REM is France I think, 2mn/OT4E are I think Spainish, mackoti is orbit somewhere on the dark side of the moon, Borsche is in Florida, several of our people from badgame are in Australia... its impossible to play a game with such an international crowd otherwise.