[SPOILERS!] Pericles of Babylon. Kyan, Twinkletoes, Whosit.

[Whosit]

Although it may not seem it as we often have different opinions- i REALLY appreciate these types of posts. As i'm a lazy sod and rarely update our thread with, well, anything, but especially the lack of diplo chatt here makes it harder for you to read into my plans i think.

Yeah, I know you probably have your own plans (our civ is suffering from a ruler with multiple-personality disorder!), when I have nothing to go on, I have to simply assume that you are, in fact, insane. :neenernee

I was trying to max our gold, however, feck it. You're right. Good call.

That's what I thought you were doing, but, yeah, faster Worker = Better. After that, I'd suggest growing Exodus to happy cap again and building another Worker. Or three.

On the road: I'll buy your explanation this time, but I'd like to devote at least one Worker to finishing the road ASAP.

Agreed but we can't spare anyone yet. After this next settler, i will be prioritising the cities more on military. Genesis will crank out military for awhile using OUR IRON! these units will be used to grow our cities. Exodus can focus on workers for the meantime as it only has 5 or so useable tiles.

Glad we have Iron, but we probably won't be "using it," since it really just unlocks Swordsmen at this point, and we probably don't want any of those. Yet. Or do we?

Anyway, good haul, friend, a good haul indeed. Hereditary Rule will definitely help us out, AND give me an excuse to urge more troop-building. However, I want each city to have at least something better than a Warrior, because we really don't have any "back-line" cities at the moment.

Some general suggestions:

While the Workers are already there, let's finish improving Exodus' terrain. Mine the hills, throw down any more farms or cottages we might need at current population levels, before moving on.

Genesis will need some more farms to feed the hills, since we only got the Sheep to work with.

Leviticus can probably pump out Workers for us each time it hits the Happy Cap because of its crazy food surplus.

Deuteronomy: What's the plan here? Farms or cottages? The plains cows (blech) aren't really enough, so I'd personally lay down a few farms. Once we have Machinery, I might put Windmills on the non-gold hills to let us actually work them (and pull in a little commerce, too). I'm leaning towards making this commerce, as much as is possible.

Numbers: Was this supposed to be hammers or commerce? It can produce 28 food with current tiles (assuming Rice gets irrigated). Well, maybe 29 with that assumption. Heck, I might even farm the spare flood plain and some grasslands. If all the hills are mined, that's 20 hammers right there. Watermills could be nice, as well, heh heh. Just some thoughts.

Though we'll want more "commerce" sites (either cottages or running specialists). If we can manage getting a Great Engineer still, let's do it. Representation would be killer for us. But we can only run 1 Engineer at a time right now. The Hanging Gardens are already long-gone, right?

We need 200 points from that Engineer, but it gets 6 per turn. Long wait. Not sure how it will work out, but worth a try. We don't have the National Epic available yet, do we?

[Kyan]

National Epic isnt available yet matey, no.

Numbers was actually going to be 1S of Watchman Hill- therefore a pure commerce site.

Deutronomy needs farms for sure. The grassland 1S and 2S. I spose it would be a decent production site.

I haven't forgotten your road I want the silver hooked up anyhow and as of next turn, a worker will work on the last tile needed to connect Deutronomy to Genesis.

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world news:

India and Krill popped Great Prophets. Krill used his to found christianity, he now has 3/4 of the early religions.

Hanging Gardens was built by Ottomans just after founding their SIXTH city. Their tech rate must be poor.

Carthage/England/Egypt/Mali/Babylon/Maya are forming a strong six for teching/funding. This is the majority of the major techers. It excludes Byz and HRE. The other civs would need to all group up together to keep pace.

That's presuming Inca and Aztec will work together since they were at war for ages. Both their economies must be poor. Portugal and Rome are STILL at war and both have lost a city each. India went to war early and have expanded over former Sumeria so their maintenance must be crazy. Otto's have six cities.

Even if they all put their differences aside, we will be considerably stronger. I do follow your 'build more military' plan, but they're becoming obsolete as we build them. Depending on how Byz respond, i may agree to build you a maceman army to play with

[novice]

Thanks for the world news, saves us the trouble of reading all the spoiler threads, assuming your intel is accurate.

[Kyan]

You're welcome Novice

The intel should be sound. The bit about the Ottomans is second hand info tho from Byz but i do believe it personally. England confirmed the number of cities that Otto's had and i know Mali didn't build it. It's possible India did as we haven't met them either.

India was who i presumed got the 2nd GP. Krill popping Theology i know for sure. I can't see how anyone else has a great prophet so quick cept them though to be honest as they got stonehenge real early.

[Strike700]

Have you guys already founded Numbers?

[Kyan]

Have you guys already founded Numbers?

Hey mate, welcome to Realms Beyond.

Settler for Numbers is due next turn. I have also realised i clearly don't know my bible and Deutronomy should have been after Numbers. That's what i get for going from memory rather than checking haha.

I'm unfortunately slacking in getting the site prep'd but it will have 2 workers assigned once the silver is connected. Both Levi and Numbers should be able to well leverage our philosophical trait soon.

[Strike700]

Hey mate, welcome to Realms Beyond.

Settler for Numbers is due next turn. I have also realised i clearly don't know my bible and Deutronomy should have been after Numbers. That's what i get for going from memory rather than checking haha.

I'm unfortunately slacking in getting the site prep'd but it will have 2 workers assigned once the silver is connected. Both Levi and Numbers should be able to well leverage our philosophical trait soon.

Thanks! You can't tell but I've actually been lurking you guys exclusively. (For Pb3 anyway)

Are you planning to run a hybrid type economy, or leaning towards a specialist economy?

[Kyan]

Thanks! You can't tell but I've actually been lurking you guys exclusively. (For Pb3 anyway)

Are you planning to run a hybrid type economy, or leaning towards a specialist economy?

In that case i owe you an apology for my shoddy regularity of updates.

That's a good question. I'm of the opinion that specialist economy really needs representation to run effectively therefore we'll just run hybrid for now. We are currently teching currency which we will hand to our new group and possibly a few select others. This will allow others to fund us.

We will likely also be inviting Portugal to the group and it's up to me to do the inviting. *dons his best diplomatic bowtie*

England are also keen to get Rome and Inca on board and use them as military tools. It would be a 'you give us gold, we give you tech, you smash skulls' kind of deal. A typical Saturday night...

Our new group is likely been dubbed 'Pat'. Named by yours truly as i got fed up of calling us the 'post-can'. That evolved to postman and thus Pat was born.

The other civs became JM - any guesses of what they stand for?

[Strike700]

Bout a week ago you guys were killing me, but you're back on the horse now.

So are you running the Pat Tech Bloc? It seemed like Krill started it but its hard to tell.

Wouldn't adding 3 more civs go right back to the giant tech bloc that this morphed out of? Plus who are they going to attack the other civs seem kind of backwards amd would fgall against any two or three of you guys working together.

My guess is "Junior Mints"

[Kyan]

Bout a week ago you guys were killing me, but you're back on the horse now.

So are you running the Pat Tech Bloc? It seemed like Krill started it but its hard to tell.

Wouldn't adding 3 more civs go right back to the giant tech bloc that this morphed out of? Plus who are they going to attack the other civs seem kind of backwards amd would fgall against any two or three of you guys working together.

My guess is "Junior Mints"

Nope, not me. England are doing most of the legwork. I think i may be used as the diplomatic face though as i'm friendly with a fair few civs. I still get on with the ex-Heracles members despite joining Hydra.

Rome have guaranteed they have no dislike for us anymore as i gave them HBR for IW ( which i managed to get Portuguese approval of! ) and Byz are cool now. If Byz attack us, Maya have promised to attack them. We're very safe right now.

The inclusion of 3 civs is NOT my idea. It's not the best, but this game is apparently going to swing from one bloc vs bloc to another. My job is to ensure we're in the best position for any switches. Some of the 'left out' civs like HRE and especially Ottomans are also very well developed and we all know the potential of India. Pointing Inca and Rome at these mainly ensures they're not poining at us.

I believe the phrase that Cyneheard used was "if they're going to suicide on someone, let's make sure it's them and not us".

Portugal i wholly support the inclusion of. Without them, we'd have been in a much tougher position earlier. They forced us into the hydra and i feel we owe them. Perhaps by returning an identical favour, we'll be even.

Going forward long term we have a strong bond with England and i don't think they would desert us. We have VERY strong bonds with Maya and Mali and both civ's would defend us to the last man. If we can get towards the endgame with the majority of remaining civs being Pat members- things are looking very good.

I'll let some more people guess 'JM' before i reveal. Two clues though:

1) I suggested it as a joke related to our group's theme
2) Krill loved it and wanted us to keep it.